Fishboy's Weight Weenie Thread

[Paul S]

Pete,

It seems as if Paul and Dave are really proud to build axles from scratch with ball joints.

Atleast Goat and Matt 'fell' onto their front axles (which had ball joints and they didn't have a choice).

When building an axle, no one with any common sense 'wants' ball joints when they have the option to avoid them.

Actually, it's all about unit bearings, ball joints are simply a side product.
I can't imagine spending as much money as we're spending a getting stuck with heavy ass 1970's era junk.

Between your weight & your rock-anchor hubs, you're in for some misery in JVHasta

P

 

[cracker]

I guess you havn't talked to Ron. Looks like he will be on the ball joint band wagon as well.

Should it really matter to me what Ron does? A couple of weeks ago he wanted the Spidertrax set up. He is still doing his research (I am assuming) and he can make his own educated decision to build it to fit his needs.

Let me start with all the people I spoke to (and they concurred) about how wrong ball joints are (compared to the superior king pins):


Mike Monohan (parts mike)
Chris at True hi9
Tom at Spidertrax
Jack at CTM
(unnamed sales person) at Currie
Birf expert Garry
and many others.........

General consensus said that ball joints were lastara and don't hold up well.

I am even happier now that it is only 40# because the benefits as I see it are that I can pull a drive flange if something goes ary (as opposed to unit bearings), if I break a shaft, I won't take out a ball joint (oh, I don't have them), according to half of the gents above hubs are stronger (over unit bearings).

 

[cracker]

Shhhhhh.

Shit I thought it was Lugie

Dammit Garry!

 

[Paul S]

So your junk has been fixed?

After calling half of the industry, general consensus was ball joints are lastara when you have the option of kingpins.

Let us look at the Comp buggies which weigh 1000# lighter than your junk. They use ball joints and have to change them EVERY competition. Then they add 200# of water to add weight to their front ends. I'll take the 40# all day long.

I think I have to call it, Dave your full of shit

You're missing the point Avery. 9 out of 10 comp guys run ball joints so they can run unit bearings, which saves 40 + lbs, eliminates the wheel hubs & drastically reduces scrub radius. It's about performance.

P

 

[cracker]

You're missing the point Avery. 9 out of 10 comp guys run ball joints so they can run unit bearings, which saves 40 + lbs, eliminates the wheel hubs & drastically reduces scrub radius. It's about performance.

P

Explain the water then.

I heard unit bearings wern't very balanced?

 

[Paul S]

Explain the water then.

I heard unit bearings wern't very balanced?

Centrifugal weight:moon:

You cannot get more balanced than unit bearings with CTM 300M axles, unbreakable at any speed.

P

 

[Mr.OverKill]

in just to watch and learn:lecture: on page 2

 

[Captain Ron]

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Between your weight ...
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We're in the process of arranging weight reduction surgery here before November. I'm talking all the way, but we'll see.

Avery wants to keep the windshield. I say there may be a minor *mishap* that makes it a moot point.

--ron

 

[David Taylor]

We're in the process of arranging weight reduction surgery here before November. I'm talking all the way, but we'll see.

Avery wants to keep the windshield. I say there may be a minor *mishap* that makes it a moot point.

--ron

All we need to do is put him behind Paul next time. He knows how to "take care" of windshields.

 

[Matt S.]

hey Pete... oh i mean Gary, what axle you doing?

BTW chrachka, I won't tell you its a bad idea if you have king pins. I will tell you that you wasted your money and should just let me take it off your hands. :scottm:

 

[Mr.OverKill]

We're in the process of arranging weight reduction surgery here before November. I'm talking all the way, but we'll see.

Avery wants to keep the windshield. I say there may be a minor *mishap* that makes it a moot point.

--ron

can i help??:twak: !!!1 :explosion :twak:!!!1:explosion do you notice a trend yet, HINT HINT.......

 

[cracker]

As for the axles, bring it. :evil:

Here is a comp buggy that doesn't fawk around. He had king pins and it seems as if that 40# is really holding him back Maybe I made the wrong decision :shocked: Nah!

 

[cracker]

I knew the windshield would come up! :laugh2:

 

[Mr.OverKill]

from what i have learned since i have the heavyest XJ ever, i think king pins with drive flanges and CTM 300M's sounds about right on a D60 out of a F350 ( to save money for my cheap ass ) the 609 center section is too much for me but i can do the rest with careful planing.( and about a year or two to save and build ) and a corp 14bolt in the rear


but hell, i could be wrong:dunno:

 

[Paul S]

Here is a comp buggy that doesn't fawk around. He had king pins and it seems as if that 40# is really holding him back Maybe I made the wrong decision :shocked: Nah!

Perfect example, he didn't make it. Even with a heavy right foot he couldn't push the excess weight up the hill.

The unit bearing guys crawled it:

 

[luvrox]

hey Pete... oh i mean Gary, what axle you doing?

BTW chrachka, I won't tell you its a bad idea if you have king pins. I will tell you that you wasted your money and should just let me take it off your hands. :scottm:

Diamond housings with kingpins, 300m shafts and some very high tech 300m cv joints.

Pete

 

[cracker]

some very high tech 300m cv joints.

 

[Goatman]

It's a moot point, whatever parts Cracker decides to run. He still can't drive.......... :looser:


:moon:

 

[Captain Ron]

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very high tech 300m cv joints.
...

Hey Pete, hook me up!

--ron

 

[luvrox]

You're missing the point Avery. 9 out of 10 comp guys run ball joints.

P

Damn it Paul, did you use some sort of Democratic / enviro formula to come up with those numbers? :laugh: