Vote Libertarian

XJEEPER said:
Tolerant

"The Libertarian Party is for all who don't want to push other people around and don't want to be pushed around themselves. Live and let live is the Libertarian way."
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AIbandit said:
We can still tell you to gtfo, we just can't force you to gtfo. :D
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correct.

you see, I treat this thread as my own property.
I can always ask someone to leave.


besides, no one ever said I follow the party line exclusively. I am actually an asshole.

I would like this thread to be informative about the 3rd largest political party in the US that no one has heard of.
It seems that no one is happy with the options they have to vote for, at least none of the people I talk to, so I'm here to present a third option.

Again, none of the wasted vote speech. If you're too chicken to vote with your conscience and your heart then go ahead and compromise. I'm tired of compromising my principals so I can get a "win". In the end, I still lose. So I might as well vote what makes me happy, and just maybe we get enough to do something.

as to the whole "get traction in your local government"
http://www.lp.org/states/Ohio

we're trying. It's hard to compete with corporate fund raising.

and there's a number of campus organizations too, there's one about a mile from my house.
 
Beezil said:
I am libertarian.

I'm voting for Romney.

get with the program guys.

while I admire Gary Johnson, a vote for him is a vote for Obama.
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and if we keep voting for other party candidates we will never be a viable third party.

just say **** it Beez. Vote LP and watch it come down in flames.
 
I'm sure all libertarian candidates have a record. Until there is a Libertarian candidate running in many or most local elections, It ain't gonna happen. That is more to the point I was trying to make.
 
westvirginia24976 said:
I'm sure all libertarian candidates have a record. Until there is a Libertarian candidate running in many or most local elections, It ain't gonna happen. That is more to the point I was trying to make.
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there are plenty of libertarian candidates running in local and state elections.

unfortunately people can't get over the whole" I've got to vote for a R or D or my vote will be wasted!!!!" mentality.


likewise it's damned ridiculous that ANY third party candidate can't get access to the debates, or gets the same favoritism regarding TV air time as the other "major" parties.

If you guys can't figure out that the entire election process has been short circuited by the two major parties in this country then I can't help you.

Why is it that local election boards have R and D directors? Shouldn't the board of elections be impartial to party?:flame:
 
I'm sorry, there may be libertarians in the local elections where you live, but the facts show differently.


2010 - Over 800 Libertarian candidates run for office in November. Libertarians running for U.S. House receive over 1,073,000 votes. Pamela Brown, running for California Lieutenant Governor against both a Republican and a Democrat, receives 574,640 votes. 38 Libertarians are elected or re-elected to public office, and by the end of the year there are 154 Libertarians holding elected office. (2010 numbers from the Libertarian website)

This is 800 candidates running for office including state and county elections across the US.



There is a lot of anger being directed at incumbents in this election year, so it shouldn't be surprising that there's a huge number of challengers running for Congress. There are more than 2,300 candidates for the House and the Senate. That's the highest number since the mid-1970s. And there are more women running for office this year. More of them are Republicans, as NPR national political correspondent Mara Liasson reports. (2010 article from NPR)

This is 2300 candidates just running for congress. Just congress.


The Libertarian party is making inroads, but the numbers just aren't there. I applaud (and mostly agree with) the efforts of the libertarian party, but it will be a long time before they have a shot at the White House and until then we need to make the best of what we have to work with.
 
87manche said:
likewise it's damned ridiculous that ANY third party candidate can't get access to the debates, or gets the same favoritism regarding TV air time as the other "major" parties.

If you guys can't figure out that the entire election process has been short circuited by the two major parties in this country then I can't help you.

Why is it that local election boards have R and D directors? Shouldn't the board of elections be impartial to party?:flame:
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I agree totally, but until we can overcome those hurdles.....
That is the need for more local Libertarians.
 
westvirginia24976 said:
The Libertarian party is making inroads, but the numbers just aren't there. I applaud (and mostly agree with) the efforts of the libertarian party, but it will be a long time before they have a shot at the White House and until then we need to make the best of what we have to work with.
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Thats what they thought about Lincoln and the republican party.

But those were different times and the American voter is a lot dumber now days.
 
Beezil said:
you aren't voting for Gary, You're voting for BARRY.
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That's fine. Nothing in politics will change until 15-20 years down the road when the guys there start dying. Sure, it'll be the same bullshit but at least their views won't be so behind. We'll aways always be playing catch up.
 
I'd love to vote for a libertarian but I'm not going to throw away my vote this late in the game.

When they can figure out how to get more funding, a place in the debates and actually make a presence early on like the two big parties do then I will throw my support their way.

To say you are going to "make a point" by voting for someone most people haven't even heard of, someone who has no financial backing, someone who can't debate or pay for major ad space is just stupid and truly is throwing your vote away.
 
Unless I see something I like from the Constitution or Reform or whatever other party, then I'll most likely vote Libertarian again. Looking forward to watching the debates on youtube.

But I'm not super enthusiastic about GJ so far, I wish he was a little stronger on Austrian economics. He's certainly better than Bob Barr was, but why does the Libertarian party have to have these Republican party cast-offs at all? (Ron Paul excepted of course).
 
Would you rather we had democrat cast offs instead. There is a 2 party system in America. So the choices we have are limited.
 
Well, in my case so is voting Republican ;)

I live in MA which is exactly 11% registered (R)...no matter how I vote in November the 11 MA electoral college votes will go to the (D) candidate. That's as much a fact as the sun rising in the East.
 
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