NOT a budget buggy build

cracker said:
I can't wait to loose my bumper.........
as thrashed as your bumper is i am surprised you havent lost it yet................ ON THE FREEWAY:gee:












:D
 
steagall9301 said:
as thrashed as your bumper is i am surprised you havent lost it yet................ ON THE FREEWAY:gee:

That bumper is held on my a million bolts. That is the last thing to fall off that XJ.
 
cracker said:
I don't see why it would lead to weird pulls. The benefit is the clearance gained.

Goat doesn't use his winch much anyway.

Every pull is from the front, right corner of the vehicle. It's also higher on the vehicle. Seems...I don't know...different. Maybe I'm having trouble adapting to the creativity :looney:

I guess it just seems like all of the pulling angles become more severe. Whether it's to the right, and the vehicle is trying to crab walk right as it moves forward, or to left, and the vehicle is trying to pivot around the front left tire as it moves forward.

Seems like a center location for the fairlead would be a more attractive option, but perhaps I'm over estimating the additonal stresses caused by the change in angles.
 
csuxj said:
Every pull is from the front, right corner of the vehicle. It's also higher on the vehicle. Seems...I don't know...different. Maybe I'm having trouble adapting to the creativity :looney:

I guess it just seems like all of the pulling angles become more severe. Whether it's to the right, and the vehicle is trying to crab walk right as it moves forward, or to left, and the vehicle is trying to pivot around the front left tire as it moves forward.

Seems like a center location for the fairlead would be a more attractive option, but perhaps I'm over estimating the additonal stresses caused by the change in angles.


You have to ask yourself, have you EVER actually had a perfectly straight pull? As long as your going up or forward, does it matter what physics are involved? Thats how I helped justify the idea.
 
csuxj said:
Every pull is from the front, right corner of the vehicle. It's also higher on the vehicle. Seems...I don't know...different. Maybe I'm having trouble adapting to the creativity :looney:

I guess it just seems like all of the pulling angles become more severe. Whether it's to the right, and the vehicle is trying to crab walk right as it moves forward, or to left, and the vehicle is trying to pivot around the front left tire as it moves forward.

Seems like a center location for the fairlead would be a more attractive option, but perhaps I'm over estimating the additonal stresses caused by the change in angles.

Try thinking outside the box. It will be fine.
 
steagall9301 said:
as thrashed as your bumper is i am surprised you havent lost it yet................ ON THE FREEWAY:gee:
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I don't see that as much of a problem Troy. With it's mass, and at freeway speeds, it would still make it home about the same time as the rest of the vehicle.

:D

--ron
 
Captain Ron said:
I don't see that as much of a problem Troy. With it's mass, and at freeway speeds, it would still make it home about the same time as the rest of the vehicle.

:D

--ron

Hey hey hey. :D
 
Captain Ron said:
I don't see that as much of a problem Troy. With it's mass, and at freeway speeds, it would still make it home about the same time as the rest of the vehicle.

:D

--ron
ROFLMAO!!:worship: :worship:
 
csuxj said:
Every pull is from the front, right corner of the vehicle. It's also higher on the vehicle. Seems...I don't know...different. Maybe I'm having trouble adapting to the creativity :looney:

I guess it just seems like all of the pulling angles become more severe. Whether it's to the right, and the vehicle is trying to crab walk right as it moves forward, or to left, and the vehicle is trying to pivot around the front left tire as it moves forward.

Seems like a center location for the fairlead would be a more attractive option, but perhaps I'm over estimating the additonal stresses caused by the change in angles.

I'm surprised someone hasn't asked this question before, I've been waiting for it. :)

We won't know for sure how it will work until it happens, but my reasoning is what has already been said. Most winch pulls are at some angle already, and sometimes we make pulls from a pretty good angle and it works fine. Additionally, most winch pulls when you're pulling yourself are for only a couple of feet, either getting off a rock you're hung up on or getting that last few feet over an obstacle you didn't make. From experience, the angle of the pull makes little difference in those situations.

The reason for doing it this way is two fold. One is simply because that's where it fits. My front axle is moved forward 4" and so the tires are even with the front crossmember. I want to take advantage of that great approach angle and don't want to mess it up with a winch and winch mount up front. The winch location just seemed like the logical place to put it if it wasn't going to go up front. The fairlead is just outside of the radiator........there's no other place it could go. The other reason is for weight distribution. There is very little weight on the rear, so I'm moving anything back that I can, including the winch.
 
FarmerMatt said:
I can't be the only one rolling on the ground laughing at this statement!!! I can't remember the last time I've wheeled with Goat that he didn't have to use his winch...:eek: :gee: :wave:

Matt

Hey Farmer Boy, it's nice to see you crawl out of your shell and say something. At least I've never had my winch come off of it's mount in the middle of pulling myself over an obstacle. :looser:

:moon:

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So, Matt, is that front D60 installed yet?
 
For some reason I don't see any rocks in this pic but I'm sure I see a winch line coming out the front. :dunno:

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a month or two ago Scrappy was telling me about this winch idea and I had my concerns... after pondering it for a bit I recalled Backdoor; did anyone even think twice about the angle on the fairlead in this situation? was it ever a problem? (answer: no)
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But Matt did make it sound like the winch was going to go where the glovebox is, I'm happy to see it's down low; great for weight distribution as I'm guessing you're going to have issue with a very light ass-end. Looking good! :thumbsup:
 
BrettM said:
But Matt did make it sound like the winch was going to go where the glovebox is, I'm happy to see it's down low; great for weight distribution as I'm guessing you're going to have issue with a very light ass-end. Looking good! :thumbsup:


I am glad you brought this up.

Compare Rons new buggy to this one. His is probably lighter overall, especially in the rear. Yet, very minimalistic. Not that it is a bad thing. Goatman has remained true to the idea that he WILL be skying this out at high speed. This design I feel is going to handle much more abuse than Rons.

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Its kinda jeepspeed meets a moon buggy.
 
Now there you go Matt talkin' shit again!

Besides - Ron likes to rebuild his "Jeep" bi-weekly anyway.
 
Scrappy said:

I'm following Ron on this one when I get my junk there. I think it is a good compromise for weight and strength.

I see Goats rig as a rig you can bitch slap and just can't hurt (which has it's positives too). Pete's going to have his hands full :laugh2:

The jumping thing is last on my list but it seems like Goats rig will be able to fly now. :D
 
GSequoia said:
Now there you go Matt talkin' shit again!

Besides - Ron likes to rebuild his "Jeep" bi-weekly anyway.


I am just a shit talker. I just am able to convice these west coast retards I know what I am doing!:gee: They LET me weld on there junk!!!:eek:
 
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