THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread
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foxwar71
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if it has tow mirrors, buy it!!!
if it has tow mirrors, buy it!!!
asp
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What breaks automatic transmissions? Spikes in power output from the engine as a result of a bad tune?
What breaks automatic transmissions? Spikes in power output from the engine as a result of a bad tune?
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heat, heat, heat, heat, too much power, heat, design issues, and heat.
e: oh, and abuse and lack of maintenance.
heat, heat, heat, heat, too much power, heat, design issues, and heat.
e: oh, and abuse and lack of maintenance.
chedisme
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it does. oh and I forgot it has a plow mount. I think its a fisure or how ever you spell it. he hasent done much plowing with it though.
it does. oh and I forgot it has a plow mount. I think its a fisure or how ever you spell it. he hasent done much plowing with it though.
asp
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Please excuse the dumb questions, I've always just assumed automatic trans sucked and never investigated why. Heat from where? Internally generated heat? Don't people use tranny coolers with quality fluid and a decent torque converter?
Automatics seem like such a headache, and for what gain?
don't care about abuse/lack of maintenance. People are dumb. Can't blame the hardware just because you are a moron.
Please excuse the dumb questions, I've always just assumed automatic trans sucked and never investigated why. Heat from where? Internally generated heat? Don't people use tranny coolers with quality fluid and a decent torque converter?
Automatics seem like such a headache, and for what gain?
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foxwar71
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well espically with diesels the torque comes in at low rpm's and since the tranny is barely spinning the pump isnt moving enough fluid and its easy to cook it
well espically with diesels the torque comes in at low rpm's and since the tranny is barely spinning the pump isnt moving enough fluid and its easy to cook it
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chedisme
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you could drive it around with the parking break on. I think thats what killed this one. he plowed 3-4 driveways with the parking break on.
you could drive it around with the parking break on. I think thats what killed this one. he plowed 3-4 driveways with the parking break on.
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Some run hotter than others. Supposedly the AW4 is one of them, I've cooked two and I'm working on a third but they were all due to pretty horrible abuse, I don't blame the AW4 for that since no one else has issues with them. The 46re and related transmissions? eeeeeeeeveryone has issues with those, except apparently Colin's friend who knows how to build them and run them. Every other ZJ on CL around here with a 44/46 is listed as having a slipping tranny or one that was "rebuilt only 20k miles ago", or at least they were when I was looking at cherokees and kept finding grands.
They have a lot more funky moving parts and stuff than manuals, moving parts = friction. If the clutch packs slip, it makes more heat obviously, and the torque converter by design kinda makes some heat when it's not in lockup mode. Hot ATF wears out faster, and wears the clutch frictions faster, if you don't maintain them properly or overheat them or both, it will cook it.
Some run hotter than others. Supposedly the AW4 is one of them, I've cooked two and I'm working on a third but they were all due to pretty horrible abuse, I don't blame the AW4 for that since no one else has issues with them. The 46re and related transmissions? eeeeeeeeveryone has issues with those, except apparently Colin's friend who knows how to build them and run them. Every other ZJ on CL around here with a 44/46 is listed as having a slipping tranny or one that was "rebuilt only 20k miles ago", or at least they were when I was looking at cherokees and kept finding grands.
chedisme
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speaking of stupid, got in my 6" Pypes exhaust tip today
is it a terrible picture?yes, can you Kinda see the tip?probaly, do i give a shit? no
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and haow many of those are due to lack of maintnence? or low fluid? theres still a ton of ZJ's and Dodges on the road with the origanal trans at 200k
MoparManiac
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I'm not saying Chrysler transmissions are the best transmissions out there or whatever.
I'm just saying you can't blame a transmission for being a shit design or something when you don't replace the fluid/filter, pump twice the rated torque through it, and ignore your trans temps.
How many people with AW4s are putting 500 lb-ft torque through them with 35" tires (not regeared) along with towing 8k+ lbs, doing 4WD launches, and then giving them to some random garage builder to rebuild and expecting the thing to last?
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I'm not saying Chrysler transmissions are the best transmissions out there or whatever.
I'm just saying you can't blame a transmission for being a shit design or something when you don't replace the fluid/filter, pump twice the rated torque through it, and ignore your trans temps.
How many people with AW4s are putting 500 lb-ft torque through them with 35" tires (not regeared) along with towing 8k+ lbs, doing 4WD launches, and then giving them to some random garage builder to rebuild and expecting the thing to last?
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My parents had to rebuild the 46re in the van I got twice (may have been 3 times) when they owned it. It was a 2001 with 138k miles when I got it - I don't recall how many miles it had when they got it. They got it from a fleet that had maintenance records 100% stock, kept it maintained (I know, I worked for the quicklube they brought it to while I was in highschool and in fact was the tech that did the atf changes on it more than once) and it still blew up multiple times. They rebuilt it maybe 4-6 months before it finally got parked and put up for sale, and after sitting for a few years because no one wanted it, I got it. It was already whining and groaning from the bellhousing when we jumped it to get it out of the driveway and took a big fat dump on me around 2500-3000 miles later.
Oh, and all those rebuilds? All big name trans shops, every time it cost them at least 1500-2k for the honor of having it rebuilt again.
Sorry, I'm just bitter about 46REs :dunce:
My parents had to rebuild the 46re in the van I got twice (may have been 3 times) when they owned it. It was a 2001 with 138k miles when I got it - I don't recall how many miles it had when they got it. They got it from a fleet that had maintenance records 100% stock, kept it maintained (I know, I worked for the quicklube they brought it to while I was in highschool and in fact was the tech that did the atf changes on it more than once) and it still blew up multiple times. They rebuilt it maybe 4-6 months before it finally got parked and put up for sale, and after sitting for a few years because no one wanted it, I got it. It was already whining and groaning from the bellhousing when we jumped it to get it out of the driveway and took a big fat dump on me around 2500-3000 miles later.
Oh, and all those rebuilds? All big name trans shops, every time it cost them at least 1500-2k for the honor of having it rebuilt again.
Sorry, I'm just bitter about 46REs :dunce:
MoparManiac
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So does it not shift into overdrive, or does the TC not lockup? Very different and could be caused by different things.
Asked my friend about it and he said you have to figure out if the computer is commanding OD or not. If it is it could be a shift solenoid, governor, or a blown lipseal on the apply piston. Or wasted clutches in the OD pack. If it's wasted clutches though, it will still shift into overdrive it will just slip.
He said everything but the wasted clutches is cheap.
So does it not shift into overdrive, or does the TC not lockup? Very different and could be caused by different things.
Asked my friend about it and he said you have to figure out if the computer is commanding OD or not. If it is it could be a shift solenoid, governor, or a blown lipseal on the apply piston. Or wasted clutches in the OD pack. If it's wasted clutches though, it will still shift into overdrive it will just slip.
He said everything but the wasted clutches is cheap.
asp
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Letting someone drive your car with a manual trans is like letting them borrow your girlfriend.
Your logic is undeniable. I think you raise a good point about a lot of these being shared vehicles.
Letting someone drive your car with a manual trans is like letting them borrow your girlfriend.
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