Show Of Hands

[IntrepidXJ]

my thoughts......is this chapter would be too close to the core of the MWC chapter (which started out with people from WI/IL/IN/MI mostly).

i do think that a new chapter for the southern states of the MWC is a good idea, though.

anyways...that's my 2 cents......but if you guys have the people willing to step up and put forth the effort to form and grow a chapter.....then I wish you good luck

 

[WrenchMonkey]

Well, nobody asked for my input, but here it is anyway...

I thought from the start that MWC was way too big. Fifteen states, something real close to a MILLION square miles, give or take. On a map, our chapter looks as big as the six smallest chapters combined. Hell, two chapters are single-state, and socal is (obviously!) a third of a state.

We span 1200 miles from the Dakotas to Ohio, and about that far from Minnesota to Arkansas. And while it's beautiful country, I ain't gonna go wheeling in North Dakota. Or Chicago, for that matter.

I'd be very interested on an Ohio Valley Chapter, or KYANOH, or whatever. Something a little more localized.

But like Intrepid said, there is work involved, and I don't want it to seem for a second that I don't appreciate the efforts of the current MWC BOD n LMNOP... It's just that 300 miles for a meet n greet in chi-town simply aint gonna happen for me...

But I could get my junk to Louisville...

Robert

 

[Rev Den]

The MWC was intended at some time to break into smaller chapters, as membership grew and became interested.

Having met the group behind this effort I can say that they have a good start, and they are great guys.

Rev

 

[SwissArmyJeep]

Might wanna become a member there skippy.

Go for it guys.

Rev

OUCH!
Point well taken.:anon:
I'll go red very soon....

 

[Rev Den]

I was not trying to be a d$ck...just that for a new chapter to form you need members, not users.
We cool?

Rev

 

[SwissArmyJeep]

We cool?

Rev

Always!
I don't play well with paypal, so it's Money order in the snail mail for membership. Kinda PITA, so it's always easy to forget.
This forum/group is well worth the cost of membership, so it's time to use one of my "Forever Stamps".atriot:

 

[ren]

I am actually liking the thought of a KyOhIn chapter. The distances to go ride are not really that great compared to running up to, say northern Ill, or the Dakotas. I mean, if the MWC was originally supposed to break in to more chapters as it grew, then would this not be a good time to discuss it?
If this is considered to be a breakaway movement, then the BOD needs to be willing to discuss this with the interested parties and find out what/why is the reason for the movement, right?
Not trying to be inflamatory, just voiceing thoughts here.

 

[IntrepidXJ]

I mean, if the MWC was originally supposed to break in to more chapters as it grew, then would this not be a good time to discuss it?
If this is considered to be a breakaway movement, then the BOD needs to be willing to discuss this with the interested parties and find out what/why is the reason for the movement, right?
Not trying to be inflamatory, just voiceing thoughts here.

isn't what we are doing in this thread, discussing it?

 

[Dirk Pitt]

What advantage do you gain by having your own chapter?

Why more smaller chapters instead of the big one? Why don't you just call yourself part of the MWC? What do you gain by making it official and what does naxja gain?

I really don't have an opinion either way since it doesn't include me, just curious the intentions behind the idea.

 

[IntrepidXJ]

just thought this would be a good place to post this:

Section 1: Chapter Formation
Subject to approval by the Board of Directors, a Local or Regional Chapter may be formed by any group of fifteen (15) or more General Members in good standing. In order to form a Chapter, such group of Members shall inform the Board of Directors of their intention to form a Chapter, and describe the geographic region to be included in the proposed Chapter. If any portion of the proposed geographic region overlaps the region of a previously established Chapter, the proposed Chapter shall either revise its proposal to omit such area or shall obtain permission from the governing body of the previously established Chapter to overlap the territory of such previously established Chapter.
In order to obtain approval from the Board of Directors to establish a Chapter, the group of Members proposing such Chapter shall demonstrate to the Board of Directors that sufficient interest exists within the proposed region to sustain a Chapter. The prospective Chapter shall submit to the Board of Directors a list of Members within the proposed region who wish to establish a Chapter, together with a table of organization indicating the initial Officers of the Chapter, and documentation of their election by Members within the proposed region. As a Chapter grows and it becomes feasible, they may split or divide. At this point, all parties involved should apply for Chapter status to the Board of Directors by submitting a list of Members and the new geographic areas described.

 

[seanR]

Chapters....
< president speaking>
I am all for new chapters.
I encourge you to investigate your options.
The midwest chapter is huge!
Looking back should it have been made so big, no, but it is over and done, very well I might add.
When the MWC was formed, it was always the plan to split it into smaller chapters as it grew, and it has, quite a bit.
One of the planks in my platform when I ran for this office was to see more local, face to face, activity in this club.
I want us to move back out of the "internet group" we have become and more like a "giant local club".
I do not want to become a Pirate like group.
I want us to be a personal group of friends.
A chapter is for local people to get together, Madison Wisconsin and Columbus Ohio, are not what I would call 'local'.
Good luck to you guys!
One sugestion, lets keep the two chapter formation threads seperate.
If you would like "chapter formation forums" just ask, we can have one or two put up.

<Midwest chapter president speaking>
Although I support the formation of chapters that include MWC territory, I can not speak for the entire BOD.
I would recomend you guys seek out a MWC BOD member, Brad kid4lyf, Mark Lawncher, or Les LBEXJ and ask them to bring it up for the MWC BOD to discuss.


Good luck guys!

 

[Big Hank]

Well, I pm'd this to bowhunter so that I would not be hijacking his thread, but hear it goes.

I can agree way more with your idea, then to disagree. But this is what you got me thinking....

Your post made me start brainstorming ideas of how to make your plan happen. I am not part of your Michiana district. But I am very interested in the Indy/kentucky/portion of OH area. I think you are on the right track with the idea, but it makes me question if that is jumping in a little bit big. (if you wanna go big, then great, i am not against you doing so) My issue is that I see it starting a trend that I really don't think should move toward. I think we would run the risk of having hundreds of forums for every little district of people across the country. I do see where you are coming from as far as wanting to be able to focus more on the people that surround each other in that area. I know that being in Southern Indiana I am not concerned with anything in the Dakota's or Wisconson for that matter. But consider the following idea.

I know we don't use midwestxj.org to its potential, some people don't agree with it, some people don't know it exists, and some people really just don't care about anything. But my idea would be to use midwestxj.org to split the midwest into these districts and make it esier to comunicate and set up for meet and greets / wheeling trips and so on. Essentially we would be organizing the midwest the exact same way that all of has been organized.


thanks for readin, gene

 

[87manche]

What advantage do you gain by having your own chapter?

Why more smaller chapters instead of the big one? Why don't you just call yourself part of the MWC? What do you gain by making it official and what does naxja gain?

I really don't have an opinion either way since it doesn't include me, just curious the intentions behind the idea.

the way I see it:

Smaller chapters could better organize themselves with annual events, and the driving sitances would be cut down drastically.
Don't get me wrong, I'd still come and wheel flatnasty with everyone, but it would be nice to have a chapter even that doesn't involve driving 6-8 hours.
Of course, there's no place to wheel in OH anyway, so we're perpetually screwed on driving.

IF there were a michiana chapter formed it would almost mandate that the states to the east and west of that chapter form thei own. Wouldn't make much sense to have states seperated by michigan and indiana tied together. I'm likely never going to make it to OK to wheel.

Perhaps we should consider a michiana group, and KY, OH group
and whatever the fellas in the west want to do.

I think this needs to be looked at by the numbers, like splitting up voting precincts. Let's take a look at the number of members in the geographic areas we've got and divide it like that.

 

[BRIANHO13]

the way I see it:

Smaller chapters could better organize themselves with annual events, and the driving sitances would be cut down drastically.
Don't get me wrong, I'd still come and wheel flatnasty with everyone, but it would be nice to have a chapter even that doesn't involve driving 6-8 hours.
Of course, there's no place to wheel in OH anyway, so we're perpetually screwed on driving.

IF there were a michiana chapter formed it would almost mandate that the states to the east and west of that chapter form thei own. Wouldn't make much sense to have states seperated by michigan and indiana tied together. I'm likely never going to make it to OK to wheel.

Perhaps we should consider a michiana group, and KY, OH group
and whatever the fellas in the west want to do.

I think this needs to be looked at by the numbers, like splitting up voting precincts. Let's take a look at the number of members in the geographic areas we've got and divide it like that.

I think it should be KY IN and OH. That is a good size, and several good wheeling spots. I agree with Nate, its just too big.

 

[xjjeepthing]

Wow Lots of things to think about and discuss. Thanks for the comments for and against. Please keep this going. I'm not trying to replace the MWC by any means . Just trying to make it easier for people in this area to get together and maybe do some wheeling or drink some beer and eat some wings. I kind of like the idea of the MWC being the goverening body and maybe instead of several chapters have several smaller subchapters. Like its been said most people are not gonnna drive a 5 or 6 hundred miles to hang out but may go a 100 or so. This is, like I said a feeler to see what interest there is.

 

[seanR]

I kind of like the idea of the MWC being the goverening body and maybe instead of several chapters have several smaller subchapters.

I don't like the idea of sub chapters, here is why...
1)There is no provision for them in the club by-laws. The by laws would have to be amended to allow for their formation.
2)The MWC bod structure will be a nightmare, Who would rum these little "sub chapters"? We would endup having National elections, Chapter elections, Sub chapter elections...
OMG!
Then a director of the Midtown Elkhart sub sub chapter will resign and we will have to have a special special election....
Bad news
Bad news....

 

[HaleYes]

I don't like the idea of sub chapters, here is why...
1)There is no provision for them in the club by-laws. The by laws would have to be amended to allow for their formation.
2)The MWC bod structure will be a nightmare, Who would rum these little "sub chapters"? We would endup having National elections, Chapter elections, Sub chapter elections...
OMG!
Then a director of the Midtown Elkhart sub sub chapter will resign and we will have to have a special special election....
Bad news
Bad news....

I agree with you Sean. Not worth the hastle.

I think it's great that there is interest in the formation of more chapters. Sounds like the next step is to fight over ...um, I mean discuss what the boundaries of the two new "MWC Territories" will be. Then as long as there is 15 members from each "MWC Territory", the individual "Territories" are on their own from there......right?

Does the MWC BOD have to approve the annexes? If there is 15 members in good standing, willing to step up and help out, I don't see how it could be an issue. Granted, not all 15 will be interested in a BOD spot, but you see my point.....I hope.

Hale

 

[seanR]

I
Does the MWC BOD have to approve the annexes? If there is 15 members in good standing, willing to step up and help out, I don't see how it could be an issue. Granted, not all 15 will be interested in a BOD spot, but you see my point.....I hope.

Hale

Yes, the MWC BOD has to approve de-annexations

 

[xjjeepthing]

Ok I see the the subchapter problems.
Any help on area we should cover.

 

[Randy Curran]

Are we running a truck club or local government?