Drive line angle has little to do with caster.
Iron Rock Long Arm Upgrade
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Drive line angle has little to do with caster.
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- San Diego
adjusting the caster changes the pinion/driveline angle.
and cant this thread just die already?
and cant this thread just die already?
HoneyBadger
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- Florida, USA
Did you ever fracture the 1/2" bolt? Were you using the T&T track-bar mount? I'm considering their track-bar system for our expedition vehicle.
ktm racer 419
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- ROW DIALIN
nope. just bent one. using grade 8 stuff.only noticed it when i threaded it out
i used the trackbar mount and bent that as well. ended up welding it to my old xj lol
twodoorXJ
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- northern new jersey
Whenever i read one of your posts, this is what i think of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GhkjIyBdhw&feature=player_embedded#at=24
Could that be you by chance?
HoneyBadger
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- Florida, USA
Interesting! I may have to mimick your bolt upgrades and mount welding procedures.
Asher.mich
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- mi
The revolutionary caster adjuster sucks. Mine bent after a year on the jeep. As for the three bolts holding the long arms on each side I didn't even try to risk that one I just welded mine on. I'll be cutting the caster thing off and basically copy TnTs setup to fix the issue.
ktm racer 419
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second documented time i have heard of this. imagine all the people that don't go on the forums that have done this.
srmitchell
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- Mckinleyville (Humboldt) CA
8 inches is too tall for me because of the high center of gravity. 4 inches and 32's has been good to me.
I'm also six feet tall, so my jeep is about 4 inches taller than me. Ground clearance at the bumpers is right around 2.5 feet.
For someone like me, who only has the chance to wheel hard a handful of times a year, lifting it 8 inches would be STUPID. However there's plenty of guys around here who feel- that the bigger the truck, the bigger the man.
I just see it as less mpg, and sh** road manners.
I'm also six feet tall, so my jeep is about 4 inches taller than me. Ground clearance at the bumpers is right around 2.5 feet.
For someone like me, who only has the chance to wheel hard a handful of times a year, lifting it 8 inches would be STUPID. However there's plenty of guys around here who feel- that the bigger the truck, the bigger the man.
I just see it as less mpg, and sh** road manners.
MaxxXJ
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- Bakersfield CA
So 2 out of the 100k lifts sold were bad apples... I intend on getting this lift but in all fairness I don't intend to wheel overly hard I drive pretty sensible so I think something like this would be safe for a driver like me
srmitchell
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- Mckinleyville (Humboldt) CA
It's pretty amazing that people are getting advice saying DON'T!
However they still buy the questionable product.
However they still buy the questionable product.
Chuckanut
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- Moses Lake WA
I'm geting one too! :moon:
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- Lafayette, CA
You really think IRO have sold 100k of these lift kits?
ktm racer 419
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- ROW DIALIN
holy lol
well i just ordered the 6.5 long arm from iron rock i have my doubts about the 3 link setup with the caster adjustment but from geometry standpoint 3 links obviously have more flex than a 4 .. and worst comes to worse if i dont like the caster adjusment then ill rebuild the uca part of the kit.. my guess is it will work great.. if not still a great kit to get going with.. be sure to post pics when i install and keep you posted.
DeftwillP
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- Round Rock TX
For sake of dialup users, quoting this and not the post with the pics. I specifically remember when these first surfaced. I want to say that the account that the driver posted (mind you in a tj with around 6+" of lift) was that he was only turning while doing 45 mph.
Not defending Rusty's. I do happen to have some of his junk on my jeep that was on it when I purchased. My trackbar is the HD version with the double shear bracket. The rod end is much beefier than that.
Who gives a shit what your prognosis is Dr. Freud. I was actually agreeing with someone else who said you might need some more seat time. The simple fact is: there is no need for 8" of lift on an xj.
Word for word....this.
Like someone else said, lol. 100k kits. I wonder if 100k xj lift kits have been sold since the genesis of the platform, all vendors/brands considered.
srmitchell
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- Mckinleyville (Humboldt) CA
^Glad you agree.
Maybe dubstepxj lives in an area where gas is cheap.
I paid $4.35/gal yesterday. I'd like to trade the jeep away.
Maybe dubstepxj lives in an area where gas is cheap.
I paid $4.35/gal yesterday. I'd like to trade the jeep away.
MaxxXJ
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- Bakersfield CA
It wasn't meant to be a 100% literal lol geez, prolly more realistically maybe a 1000? My point is, those who wheel hard complain about this kit, those who don't and are either weekend wheelers (class 4 or less trails) or mall crawlers... I'm sure that 10mm bolt isnt the strongest thing to hold it's place I myself would rather use maybe something like a threaded upper to adjust the camber instead of what they use . But a weekend wheeler like myself I don't think i would so many issues with this kit
HoneyBadger
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- Florida, USA
That's the problem with the IRO suspension owners. You "don't think." At least it would appear so. Supporting a product that clearly suffers from a poor design (caster plate, cross-member held in place by six factory bolts) and a manufacturer that makes claims not in evidence (i.e. our product has better clearance than any other commercially available product when any one can see the T&T Customs Y-Link and several others have much better clearance) is the result of ignorance of the facts. You do realise that a poorly designed suspension can injure or kill? It's not difficult to see how a slotted plate with fasteners controlling the rotation of the front axle could fail. It's also not difficult to see how mounting these monstrosities to a cross-member that is supported by six factory bolts that probably have 1/4" of threaded surface contact is in question by so many on
. Look at the design of the factory cross-member. It helps to support the transmission and transfer-case that bolt to each other and the motor. It also helps to stiffen the chassis. It is not meant to be subjected to the forces exerted by long (more leverage) control arms plus the transmission and transfer-case. This explains why other suspension designs use more fasteners and often use bolt sleeves that insert through the frame rails to add structural mounting points that do not solely rely on threaded sheet metal. The question should not be can this be done, but should this be done. Should we place ourselves and others in danger needlessly? Should we take the word of a manufacturer that is clearly not interested in correcting their design errors (see evidence from those who encountered problems)? It is a moral issue when it potentially puts lives in jeopardy.MaxxXJ
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- Bakersfield CA
Ok honeybadger, given your opinion here, what lift would you recommend instead? Long arms full leafs strong sturdy track bar(unless your ok with their double sheer setup) etc and won't break the bank.
I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm asking an honest question so I only have to buy my setup once.
I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm asking an honest question so I only have to buy my setup once.
