I smell fish II....forged!

[CherBear]

Biden knows what he is doing.....is this really what you meant to say? As stated before, whether Obama is a citizen or he isn't, what doesn't change is that he is a Marxist Socialist collaborating with others within and outside the Congress and White House to undermine the US Constitution and free-market capitalism.

Judge the man by his actions, who supports him and who he associates with, who shares a common agenda.



Not sure your opinion holds much water......based on previous statements.

Care to provide the basis of said opinion?

Yes,

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palin-top-10.htm

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palinisms.htm

And ok fine, maybe a humor website isnt the best of sources, but all of those are true.



Also, has anyone seen anything in the news about this? I have seen nothing! I would expect at least something, at least on FOX!

 

[XJEEPER]

Yes,

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palin-top-10.htm

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palinisms.htm

And ok fine, maybe a humor website isnt the best of sources, but all of those are true.



Also, has anyone seen anything in the news about this? I have seen nothing! I would expect at least something, at least on FOX!

I was more interested in the Biden vs Obama comparison, Palin...not so much.

 

[CherBear]

Ah ok, sorry for the misunderstanding.
It is my opinion that Biden is a much more qualified person to be president, I just disagree with his political views.
Would you like to me list which particular views of his I dislike, or will that suffice?

 

[GrimmJeeper]

You tend to stay fairly neutral.

I'm an equal opportunity hater, I don't like anybody

 

[XJEEPER]

No offense to XJEEPER, but you saying that holds more weight than him to me. He, of course, will go for the anti-Obama rhetoric. You tend to stay fairly neutral.

Are we even having the same discussion here?

My comments were relative to Biden VS Obama comparison…..I merely wanted clarity. What I read from CherBear’s statement is that Biden would be better as POTUS because he knew what he was doing, as opposed to Obama, who’s qualifications for President via the valid birth certificate were being questioned.

Separate topics altogether. Thanks to Cher for clarifying.

Not offended, and to clarify, I’m not anti-Obama…….I’m pro-American. My beliefs are based on Constitutional principles and values. If Obama's actions were in alignment with these, I’d be singing his praises from the rooftops.

I'm anxiously awaiting further developments on this document, the conspiracy angle is intriguing.

EDIT: Darky, my statement directed at Obama is not rhetoric, it is fact.

 

[GrimmJeeper]

I find the layers in the document to be the most intriguing. there is no reason whatsoever that there should be layer separation in a scanned document, period. it's nothing more that a digital snapshot of the paper laid onto the scanner.

 

[Crawler]

BTW..

I'm not jumping on the birther bandwagon.

Concern and the expectation for action over eligibility requirements is past the point of no return.

what concerns me is that OUR white house has produced and published what appears to be a forged or untruthful document, and we can assume at the request of, or under direction of the president himself.

Liberals are using Trump in a diversionary tactic, and some of you are lathering in it.

What needs to be carefully considered here is the existence of a fraudulent document, which by definition would amount to a conspiracy perpetrated on the entire populace.

where is the outrage?

Indeed. That is the issue for me as well. :thumbup:

Apparently Corsi's still hard on the case, including investigating information uncovered since the release of his book.

Once a little more incontrovertible evidence is brought out into the light, the MSM will have little choice but to start seriously covering the inevitable.

 

[CherBear]

Apparently Corsi's still hard on the case, including investigating information uncovered since the release of his book.

Once a little more incontrovertible evidence is brought out into the light, the MSM will have little choice but to start seriously covering the inevitable.

Thats what I thought, but I was betting on this being BIG news by now. Still nothing.

Maybe no news wants to touch this yes for fear of legal problems or other political entanglements. But that argument falls apart with the being the BIGGEST story in the last 50 years about politics.

 

[Beezil]

Thats what I thought, but I was betting on this being BIG news by now. Still nothing.

Maybe no news wants to touch this yes for fear of legal problems or other political entanglements. But that argument falls apart with the being the BIGGEST story in the last 50 years about politics.

what's in the news: christie offers reimbursement for usage of state helicopter as transportation from the capital.

not in the news: Obama brings a 500 person entourage along to a three-day g20 summit, complete with 200 secret serviceman, 6 doctors, 35 vehicles including limos and 12 teleprompters.

hey there, big spender!

what a rockstar.

 

[CherBear]

what's in the news: christie offers reimbursement for usage of state helicopter as transportation from the capital.

not in the news: Obama brings a 500 person entourage along to a three-day g20 summit, complete with 200 secret serviceman, 6 doctors, 35 vehicles including limos and 12 teleprompters.

hey there, big spender!

what a rockstar.

I am going to be honest here... I used to think everyone that threw around the idea of a "liberal media" was off the deep end so to speak. After seeing stuff like this go on, I have no doubt that ideology is correct. :thumbup:

 

[Darky]

Are we even having the same discussion here?

My comments were relative to Biden VS Obama comparison…..I merely wanted clarity. What I read from CherBear’s statement is that Biden would be better as POTUS because he knew what he was doing, as opposed to Obama, who’s qualifications for President via the valid birth certificate were being questioned.

Separate topics altogether. Thanks to Cher for clarifying.

Not offended, and to clarify, I’m not anti-Obama…….I’m pro-American. My beliefs are based on Constitutional principles and values. If Obama's actions were in alignment with these, I’d be singing his praises from the rooftops.

I'm anxiously awaiting further developments on this document, the conspiracy angle is intriguing.

EDIT: Darky, my statement directed at Obama is not rhetoric, it is fact.

Trust me, I'm on your side, but when there's one person who brings up anti-Obama stuff regularly talking on more anti-Obama stuff, it's expected. When someone who normally stays out of politics steps into the same conversation, it's a bit of a surprise and makes you take note!

PS, pro-American is anti-Obama. I have no conception that you dislike him because of his race or any reason other than his politics.

 

[Boatwrench]

I used to believe that President Obama was a one term office holder...but looking at the field of wishful contenders I am not so sure.

 

[Beezil]

I used to believe that President Obama was a one term office holder...but looking at the field of wishful contenders I am not so sure.

Tim Pawlenty.

 

[420BlackXJ]

Tim Pawlenty.

He got evicted from office much the same way the chimp did.
Elect a democrat above all else because Toilet Papers admin was so horrible.

 

[Beezil]

He got evicted from office much the same way the chimp did.
Elect a democrat above all else because Toilet Papers admin was so horrible.

how horrible?

 

[420BlackXJ]

how horrible?

Oh, lets see. How about a 6+ billion dollar deficit when he left office.
He, along with other republicant's, are very good at creating deficits.
Need more? Google it yourself.

 

[CherBear]

Oh, lets see. How about a 6+ billion dollar deficit when he left office.
He, along with other republicant's, are very good at creating deficits.
Need more? Google it yourself.

You are splitting hairs here. Both parties are guilty of increasing spending. But you are correct, republicans are historically big spenders in office.

 

[Beezil]

Yeah, those damn republicants are big spenders!

 

[Tom R.]

Oh, lets see. How about a 6+ billion dollar deficit when he left office.

While presidents sign budgets (appropriations) into law, it's Congress that determines them. And it was a democrat-controlled Congress beginning in 2006 when things really started going bad. I won't make excuses for Bush. He did things I think were outright bad for the country, but not on the scale of democrats.

Despite repeatedly telling America that he'd cut the federal deficit in half by the end of his first term, Obama has already managed to quadruple it with the help of his party colleagues. Democrats have been known as the "tax and spend" party for years.

 

[420BlackXJ]

While presidents sign budgets (appropriations) into law, it's Congress that determines them. And it was a democrat-controlled Congress beginning in 2006 when things really started going bad. I won't make excuses for Bush. He did things I think were outright bad for the country, but not on the scale of democrats.

Despite repeatedly telling America that he'd cut the federal deficit in half by the end of his first term, Obama has already managed to quadruple it with the help of his party colleagues. Democrats have been known as the "tax and spend" party for years.

Republicans have been known as the "borrow and spend" party for years.
A balanced federal budget amendment is what is necessary.