I smell fish II....forged!

[bigalpha]

Two things:
1. I saw this website recently where some people did "forensic" digital analysis similar to what you're doing, Grimm. They found a few weird things with it. I don't remember the site off-hand.

2. Recently read this report/saw some graphs that basically state the Bush tax cuts are what's pumping up our huge defecit.

 

[MT Mike]

2. Recently read this report/saw some graphs that basically state the Bush tax cuts are what's pumping up our huge defecit.

Figures lie when liars figure.

In other words, anyone can manipulate data to reflect whatever conclusion they want to come up with.

 

[bigalpha]

Figures lie when liars figure.

In other words, anyone can manipulate data to reflect whatever conclusion they want to come up with.

Here's my source.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3490

 

[420BlackXJ]

Two things:
1. I saw this website recently where some people did "forensic" digital analysis similar to what you're doing, Grimm. They found a few weird things with it. I don't remember the site off-hand.

2. Recently read this report/saw some graphs that basically state the Bush tax cuts are what's pumping up our huge defecit.

It doesn't take a genius to come to this conclusion.
Deniers can drink more kool aid to avoid the truth.

 

[420BlackXJ]

Figures lie when liars figure.

In other words, anyone can manipulate data to reflect whatever conclusion they want to come up with.

That's what YOU do. The rest of us have to live with the unbridled truth.
MT, you will never get it. You must smoke too much dope.
And you all think I am the potsmoker. Ha.

 

[MT Mike]

64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not

:guitar:

 

[bigalpha]

:guitar:

Then you collect the raw data, compile it and run an analysis on it. I doubt any of us here are economists that are capable of doing the aforementioned process.

Thus, that leaves us to rely on the work of others and discuss their findings to the best of our abilities. Instead of just running with your line of "statisticians are liars" at least read the report and tell us why you disagree.

 

[MT Mike]

Then you collect the raw data, compile it and run an analysis on it. I doubt any of us here are economists that are capable of doing the aforementioned process.

Thus, that leaves us to rely on the work of others and discuss their findings to the best of our abilities. Instead of just running with your line of "statisticians are liars" at least read the report and tell us why you disagree.

It's not everyday someone openly admits that they believe everything they read on the intardnet. Congrats on being the first I've seen in a while.
:looser:

 

[bigalpha]

It's not everyday someone openly admits that they believe everything they read on the intardnet. Congrats on being the first I've seen in a while.
:looser:

:doh:

Forget it. You obviously missed the entire point.

 

[Beezil]

Republicans have been known as the "borrow and spend" party for years.
A balanced federal budget amendment is what is necessary.

Sounds like you value fiscal conservatism

Great to hear you will be voting for a republican in the next election cycle

 

[XJEEPER]

Sounds like you value fiscal conservatism

Great to hear you will be voting for a republican in the next election cycle

Trolls don't vote conservative.

 

[420BlackXJ]

Trolls don't vote conservative.

I wouldn't know about that.
But one issue voters do vote conservative.

Vote on abortion or
Vote on taxes or
Vote on religion or
Vote on guns or
Vote on race or............
I am sure I forgot some.
XJEEPER, you take it from here...........

 

[Beezil]

I wouldn't know about that.
But one issue voters do vote conservative.

Vote on abortion or
Vote on taxes or
Vote on religion or
Vote on guns or
Vote on race or............
I am sure I forgot some.
XJEEPER, you take it from here...........

you got to be kidding me.

in your world, it's the republican party that are the big spenders running up the deficit?

in your world, it's the conservatives voting single issue?

stoner logic.

 

[CherBear]

I wouldn't know about that.
But one issue voters do vote conservative.

Vote on abortion or
Vote on taxes or
Vote on religion or
Vote on guns or
Vote on race or............
I am sure I forgot some.
XJEEPER, you take it from here...........

This comment makes no sense. Doesn't every politician vote ON everything? How does one "vote on" taxes? Dont you mean they vote for or against a particular subject? Example; increase taxes or decrease taxes.

Quit drinking the bong water.

 

[XJEEPER]

I wouldn't know about that.
But one issue voters do vote conservative.

Vote on abortion or
Vote on taxes or
Vote on religion or
Vote on guns or
Vote on race or............
I am sure I forgot some.
XJEEPER, you take it from here...........

I vote that you learn to acticulate the English language so folks can understand your posts.......

 

[420BlackXJ]

To clear up any confusion, single issue voters vote with only one concern: their issue. Say for example abortion.
If a candidate supports legal safe abortion, some conservatives won't vote for that candidate, regardless of their position on any other issue.
Their issue is so important to them, they will support a candidate for their issue even if that candidate starts illegal wars, runs up the deficit by cutting taxes in time of war, and enriches their friends with no-bid overseas contracting. Got it?:sure:

 

[Beezil]

To clear up any confusion, single issue voters vote with only one concern: their issue. Say for example abortion.
If a candidate supports legal safe abortion, some conservatives won't vote for that candidate, regardless of their position on any other issue.

yeah....democrats would NEVER choose the abortion issue as their sole basis for casting a vote one way or the other.

dude, there are lots of opportunities to draw distinctions between political parties. The fact that you've chosen this attribute only serves to demonstrate your tendancy toward logical fallacy, and the fact that you are philosophically flawed.

 

[420BlackXJ]

Your philosophy is flawed to me, so who cares? Is there an unflawed philosophy?
Oh yeah, the borrow and spend philosophy that all you seem to think is a good idea. How could I have overlooked that perfect philosophy.:roflmao:

To further my single issue voting talk:
A friend at work is strongly pro-life. He voted for GWB in 2000 exclusively on this single issue. He later regretted his vote after observing his candidate start an illegal war in Iraq. Of course it was only known in the top circle of the White House that Iraq was going to be the focus of the war on terror. But had he had more insight, or vetted out the issues better, he might have voted differently in 2000, as may alot of Floridians.

 

[CherBear]

Your philosophy is flawed to me, so who cares? Is there an unflawed philosophy?
Oh yeah, the borrow and spend philosophy that all you seem to think is a good idea. How could I have overlooked that perfect philosophy.:roflmao:

To further my single issue voting talk:
A friend at work is strongly pro-life. He voted for GWB in 2000 exclusively on this single issue. He later regretted his vote after observing his candidate start an illegal war in Iraq. Of course it was only known in the top circle of the White House that Iraq was going to be the focus of the war on terror. But had he had more insight, or vetted out the issues better, he might have voted differently in 2000, as may alot of Floridians.

Solution:
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1064422

 

[XJEEPER]

Your philosophy is flawed to me, so who cares? Is there an unflawed philosophy?
Oh yeah, the borrow and spend philosophy that all you seem to think is a good idea. How could I have overlooked that perfect philosophy.:roflmao:

To further my single issue voting talk:
A friend at work is strongly pro-life. He voted for GWB in 2000 exclusively on this single issue. He later regretted his vote after observing his candidate start an illegal war in Iraq. Of course it was only known in the top circle of the White House that Iraq was going to be the focus of the war on terror. But had he had more insight, or vetted out the issues better, he might have voted differently in 2000, as may alot of Floridians.

Your ignorance is reaching new levels.....who here, specifically, supports a "borrow and spend" philosophy? You make general statements like this, which appear to be no more that ideological talking points meant to create party division.

Seems hypocritcal of you to select that specific topic, yet defend a Democratic majority Congress and Obama's actions of borrowing more and spending more, yet somehow trying to make the last 4.5yrs of spending and borrowing all Bush's fault? (Recap, Congress approves spending and borrowing, as well as the President)

My position is that borrowing and spending has been out of control for decades, Reps and Dems alike are both to blame. 2012 elections should be about putting stop to this pattern and electing those who understand the Will of the People and will make the hard decisions that must be made to turn around the economy and follow the Constitution.

I would agree that your work buddy is misguided, I would never support a candidate based on a single issue.