GUNS & AMMO

[Skully]

I never judge any mechanical device until it's had a chance to break in.

I dont know about that one, "break in" period, I had one of those cool looking helical feed 9mm Calico's when they first came out, within 20 rounds the thing went full auto on me and then I could open the bolt easy or remove the mag. Finaly pried everything apart and the bolt and firing pin was all a wreck of metal. Returned it quickly and decided not to take a chance...........

Talk about "Break in" period, it was 20 rounds and it definitely BROKE in. :greensmok

 

[Skully]

When you go gun ADD on it let me know, I'll buy it

Probably NO, but you never know. I am really pleased with this one, just need a decent scope and a muzzle brake. When I picked up the rifle the guy I had it transferred to who is also the dealer that specializes in silencers. He said "hey I got something perfect for that" and put on a threaded muzzle flash hide and then silencer for shits and giggles.............looked way too cool then he said it runs that setup about $800+ not including the $200 tax stamp...................yeah $1000 setup on a $300 gun, I'll pass for now. :jester:

 

[DutchVDub]

My point is the .22lr is for plinking not self defense. My wife doesn't even have a desire for a personal defense weapon. She just wants a gun of her own to use when we go shooting.

My opinion, no matter what the caliber a pistol is a back up weapon to a rifle or shot gun.

 

[XJosh95]

CCI mini mags are usually good because of the higher velocity, BUT my buddy's Walther P22 broke the slide using mini mags. He couldn't find much else that would run in the thing, so he started using mini mags. I don't recall how many rounds he had through it, but the slide cracked on the thing from those high-power rounds.

I'm confused. I looked at velocity ratings for .22 last night and the CCI mini mag is a lower velocity than the cheap Winchester 555 boxes I buy. The CCI Stingers had a higher velocity.

Skilled aim you can do major damage with a .22 lr, but using a .22lr for things other than marksmanship, target competition, wabbit hunting or fun plinking I would not count on it as self defense by any means.

I agree. I have carried a .40 and a .380 for personal protection and don't really feel comfortable with anything smaller than the .380. My father in law is considering buying a handgun. He wanted a .22 pistol for personal protection and availability of the round. I think I may have him convinced to buy a 9mm. He doesn't like the recoil of my .40, likes the recoil of my .380 but doesn't like the size. I told him he wants a 9mm for the price of ammo, power and recoil (minimal) in a medium framed pistol that will fit his hands better than a pocket pistol.

 

[DutchVDub]

Get a judge, that's the ultimate conceal carry right there.

 

[in4aride]

I may try switching up ammo in the mosquito. The more i shoot it the more it jams. It has been stripped down and cleaned a few times. But only has maybe 500 rounds through it. :dunno:
Hoping i can figure it out as the thing is really fun to shoot and play around with.

 

[SteveT]

I just bought an SR-22. It's been flawless with about 500 rounds through it so far.

Only issue I had is the trigger wouldn't return after you fired it but that was only the first day and after a good cleaning it hasn't had any type of failure yet.

The reviews are pretty good too. Read one comparing that to the Walt and it one hands down.

Good to hear. Does anyone else find it annoying that Ruger named their "tactical" .22 rifle, and the pistol, SR22?

I made the mistake of visiting their website and found another must have.

 

[GSequoia]

I'm tempted about the 10/22 takedown, very tempted. I have to decide between that, a Marlin 70PSS, and an AR-7. I'd love to have a small takedown .22 for the Jeep.

 

[madmike283]

I'm confused. I looked at velocity ratings for .22 last night and the CCI mini mag is a lower velocity than the cheap Winchester 555 boxes I buy. The CCI Stingers had a higher velocity.

You're right. I totally misspoke and meant to say Stinger.

 

[GSequoia]

The name of Mini Mags throws you off too. I always keep some around in case I ever get a finnicky gun

 

[XJosh95]

Get a judge, that's the ultimate conceal carry right there.

That's what I told him when he saw it in the case. I don't know why he wasn't too keen on the idea. I guess I'll have to buy one and watch him turn green with envy.

 

[Skully]

It sounds ilke you have a SMLE (smelly).

The magazine indeed has a spring and follower, you can see the follower in the above open bolt photo but here are some more of just the magazine. I took it apart to show all parts. Learning how to take stuff apart is fun

Mag Body.


Taking it apart.

Does yours look like this?

Back together again.

Numrich has a repop mag. for $32,you can also find them on eBay. If I were in your place I'd get the eBay one assuming your magazine body is numbers matched to the rifle. Then I'd use the internals from the replacement in your mag. body.

GSequoia,

Took me awhile, forgot asking about your Enfield and mine.

Here is mine, which is a British Lee-Enfield I figured out which could be a 1895 all the way to a 1957;

..............and it appears to be missing the spring and follower.

I would like to take it to someone local to give me an idea on how old etc. I need to figure out how to break it down. :confused1

 

[GSequoia]

What is the serial number? Also how about a shot or two of the whole rifle?

 

[Skully]

What is the serial number? Also how about a shot or two of the whole rifle?

Here is some shots of it.

There are so many little numbers on the thing I have no clue which one is the S# considering this was before '68 so rifles didn't have to have a uniformed system. I see "A M 581" in a couple places on the rifle and there is also a weird stamp on the receiver in the picture above.

Actually I just answered a bunch of questions, this isn't .303 British it was converted to .22 rimfire for training purposes.

From Wikipedia; Many Mk III and III* rifles were converted to (.22 rimfire) calibre training rifles, and designated Rifle No. 2, of varying marks. (The Pattern 1914 became the Rifle No. 3.)[2 .................Numbers of Lee-Enfield rifles were converted to .22 calibre training rifles,[49] in order to teach cadets and new recruits the various aspects of shooting, firearms safety, and marksmanship at a markedly reduced cost per round. Initially rifles were converted from obsolete Magazine Lee-Metford and Magazine Lee-Enfield rifles[50][51] but from the First World War onwards SMLE rifles were used instead.

These were known as .22 Pattern 1914 Short Rifles[52] during The First World War and Rifle, No 2 Mk IV[53] from 1921 onwards.[54] They were generally single-shot affairs, although some were later modified with special adaptors to enable magazine loading.[55][56] No. 2 Mk IV rifles are externally identical to a .303 calibre SMLE Mk III* rifle, the only difference being the .22 calibre barrel, and bolthead and extractor which have been modified to fire .22 calibre rimfire cartridges.[57]

After the Second World War, the Rifle, No. 7, Rifle, No. 8 and Rifle, No. 9, all .22 rimfire trainers and/or target rifles based on the Lee action, were adopted or in use with Cadet units and target shooters throughout the Commonwealth.[58][59]

Hence why it has no magazine and sounds like it is around the 1920's.




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[GSequoia]

Dude, I think you have a .22LR trainer rifle.

 

[GSequoia]

Do you have a camera with macro mode? If so I'd like to see the muzzle, the chamber, the rear of the bolt, and the serial number where it says "No 2 Mk 4."

Try to drop a .22LR round into the chamber, I understand these were single shot 22s, you would manually load each cartridge, upon extraction I think they fall into the empty magazine but I'm not sure, that explains the lack of a follower and spring

The other part, "CAI St. Alb..." is the import mark, it was imported by Century International Arms out of Vermont.

 

[Skully]

Dude, I think you have a .22LR trainer rifle.

Yeah I just update my post above this comes from sometime around the 1920's, maybe the 1918. I highlighted in bold from the wiki listing. It matches that, No. 2 MK 4, identical to the .303 other than the barrel and the bolt for .22.

Damn this is pretty old, my granddad collected weird stuff.

 

[GSequoia]

http://www.enfield-stuff.com/regimentals/rifles/smallbore_trainers/index.htm


Weird stuff is cool. The old .22 trainer rifles from any country are neat stuff.

 

[Skully]

Do you have a camera with macro mode? If so I'd like to see the muzzle, the chamber, the rear of the bolt, and the serial number where it says "No 2 Mk 4."

Try to drop a .22LR round into the chamber, I understand these were single shot 22s, you would manually load each cartridge, upon extraction I think they fall into the empty magazine but I'm not sure, that explains the lack of a follower and spring

The other part, "CAI St. Alb..." is the import mark, it was imported by Century International Arms out of Vermont.

Yeah it is .22, and no I don't have a fancy camera.

Here is a pretty good shot I didn't see earlier, as the bolt handle was covering it.

So does 1918 mean when it was made or the model series?


Another interesting set of numbers.

How long has Century arms been importing? This thing is definitely very old, they import crap now. :greensmok

 

[GSequoia]

I'm nto sure how long, my Enfield came from Century as well. They get the lions share of imports to be sure.

The 1918 date would be about the series, not production. Too nice a stamping for a production date, I haven't found a cross reference of that yet, search around a bit and you should be able to either find it or run across somebody that can look it up from your serial number.