Weekend is over...what did you get done?

scarylilguy said:
got the new brake lines in. also got the leaf springs in. took two weeks of pb blaster and two days of cutting, hammering, and cranking. rides like a dream. oh yeah, removed the rear sway bar while i was back there. THANKS SHORTY!!
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I told you the bolts would come out easy!!:smoker:

scarylilguy said:
.... and i finally paid for a membership. whoot for red names!!!
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Welcome to the dark side-- sorry I had to bag on ya Sunday-- momma wanted to go spend $$ and needed someone to carry the stuff out to the Jeep:cheers:
 
Shorty said:
I told you the bolts would come out easy!!:smoker:



Welcome to the dark side-- sorry I had to bag on ya Sunday-- momma wanted to go spend $$ and needed someone to carry the stuff out to the Jeep:cheers:
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yeah, came out real easy. its all good about sunday. your tools are back at the store. dropped em off on tuesday.
 
High2by said:
Agreed. If I spin the ACOS up about 1.5 inches then get a taller, softer spring rate coil, that might work but I think I will still need to use limit straps. I don't want the shock to be the limiting factor and since we see what happens when they are, I will need some straps.

I measured 17" from axle coil bucket to the ACOS for the ride height. If I get another 1.5 inches from spinning up the ACOS, that gives me an 18.5" coil length at ride height. If I have 4" on the ACOS before the spring hits the rubber bump stop, that's a total of 22.5" not counting the distance the coil will un-compress when flexing..........

All of a sudden, this got complicated!!!:looney:
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Mark, this may help you out:


Coil Spring Technical Data:
Compiled from various sources.



From http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259408

OEM Old man EMU XJ is supposedly 142-147 lb/in rate. 17" length 5.25" diameter
OEM ZJ with 4.0 is supposedly 190 lb/in rate front and rear.
OME 930 coils: 160 lb. spring rate. 1.75" of lift on XJ
OME 934 coils: 180 lb. spring rate.The 934 spring is 35 mm (1.37") longer than the 930 spring.
The 930 is listed as a XJ or ZJ I-6 spring and the 934 is listed as a ZJ V-8 spring but is also used on the XJ. the 934 should give about 2.5in lift.

Tera 4" TJ coils have a 200 lb/in rate , 20.25" tall unloaded
Tera 3" TJ coils have a 170 lb/in rate

RE Rubicon Express 4.5in ZJ coils are 240 lb/in. give 5.5" ish of lift on an XJ 22" tall unloaded
RE 5.5XJ coils are 4.5ZJ coils.

Rusty's 6.5" 22" long, 12 wraps of 5/16" stock
Rusty's 4.5" coils give 5" of lift and have a 150 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
Rustys 3" coils give 3" and have 150 lb/in rate.

Rancho 3" coils, at least the old coils give about 2 1/4" of lift on an XJ and have a very high 235 lb/in rate.

Rockkrawler 6.5" are 165 lbs/in

SJ Sky Jacker 3" ZJ coils 218 lbs/in
SJ 6in XJ RR coil is 13 coils and same height and thickness as the RE ZJ4.5in XJ5.5in coil.



From http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111316
Pro-Comp 4" coils:

uncompressed length=19"
Spring Rate=150-155 lb/in
I think the O.D. was 5.1" or 5.25"



From http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...threadid=87811

XJ front springs
OEM is supposedly 147 lb/in rate.
Tera 4" TJ coils give 4.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate , 20.25" tall unloaded
Tera 3" TJ coils give 3.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 170 lb/in rate
Rusty's 4.5" coils give 5" of lift and have a 150 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
RE's 4.5" ZJ coils give 6"-6.25" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded (RE ZJ coils are 240 lb/in)
Rustys 3" coils give 3" and have 150 lb/in rate.
Rancho 3" coils, at least the old coils give about 2 1/4" of lift on an XJ and have a very high 235 lb/in rate.
OME coils give 2.25" - 2.5" of lift and have a 148 lb/in rate



From TeraFlex customer service email to T.N. (June 2004):

TJ springs
SR3T- Free length= 15" Spring rate= 190
SR4T- Free length= 15.38" Spring rate= 210
SF3T- Free length= 19.5" Spring rate= 170
SF4T- Free length= 20.25" Spring rate= 200


From Rubicon Express customer service email to T.N. (November 2004):

The 3.5" TJ fronts are approximately 240 pounds per inch. Uncompressed free
length is 19"

The 4.5" TJ fronts are approximately 219 pounds per inch. Uncompressed free
length is 19.75"


"Big Bronco" SPring info here: http://www.patricksnorton.com/bronco/lifttech.html



From NAXJA: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14157

Here's one I've accumulated over the years from various peoples postings. Take it with grain of salt....

Spring Coil Rates:

Tera 4" TJ coils give 4.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate , 20.25" tall unloaded
Tera 3" TJ coils give 3.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 170 lb/in rate
Rusty's 4.5" coils give 5" of lift and have a 150 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
RE's 4.5" ZJ coils give 6"-6.25" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
Rustys 3" coils give 3" and have 150 lb/in rate.
Rancho 3" coils, at least the old coils I had give about 2 1/4" of lift on an XJ and have a very high 235 lb/in rate.
OEM is supposedly 147 lb/in rate.
OME coils give 2.25" - 2.5" of lift and have a 148 lb/in rate




you may also want to look into Motion offroad:
Motion Offroad 4.5" XJ Coils - 115/160 (Progressive Coils)
Motion Offroad 6" XJ Coils - 115/160 (Progressive Coils)
 
Thanks Greg. I read the Pirate threads but I still don't get how to come up with what spring I need. I'm gonna call Coil Spring Specialties and see what I can find out.

From the measurements I have, I need a coil that is 24" tall unloaded and loaded 18.5" tall and that will compress to 13.5" tall but I don't even know if that's possible or not.
 
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mark what you need is a lighter rate longer spring.... rustys springs are 150 lb springs, some of the lightest rates on the market. that means when they sit down loaded the winds will sit closer and give you way more travel before they completely unload... the rustys 4.5's on dans willys are my old set and i was really happy with them because of the light rate. a rustys 4.5 with your acos turned way down or a rustys 6.5 with the acos way up might be the ticket, however im not sure how close the winds are on the 6.5's i know however that the 4.5's are a 22" unloaded length
 
i finally got some tube. got 80 feet to see were that gets me. get more if i make any mistakes that cant be used of fixed. gettin excited about the cage.
 
Bought my last piece of important camping gear today..... FYI Walmart has 100qt Coleman coolers for 52$ on their website.. mines headed to the house now
 
shortxjdoug said:
Bought my last piece of important camping gear today..... FYI Walmart has 100qt Coleman coolers for 52$ on their website.. mines headed to the house now
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Damn thats not bad, I paid 40 for a 50 some quart model! Speaking if coleman, I got the new coleman instant tent 4.............i set it up in the living room last night! :D

Got it on amazon. If anyone is interested here is a link:
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-20000...AVY8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306445450&sr=8-1
they have 3 other sizes too and it took me 3 minutes to set it up because i'm slow! :)
 
how do i know i found the perfect woman for me? I bought her a muffler as a surprise present for her jeep and she got excited and told me to go weld it up as soon as it came in today...... sometimes its surreal to me ;)
 
shortxjdoug said:
how do i know i found the perfect woman for me? I bought her a muffler as a surprise present for her jeep and she got excited and told me to go weld it up as soon as it came in today...... sometimes its surreal to me ;)
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I know what you mean. When we had trouble on the trail with the coils, Anita said, let's get some new ones and fix it. You gotta love it!!!!
 
shortxjdoug said:
how do i know i found the perfect woman for me? I bought her a muffler as a surprise present for her jeep and she got excited and told me to go weld it up as soon as it came in today...... sometimes its surreal to me ;)
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High2by said:
I know what you mean. When we had trouble on the trail with the coils, Anita said, let's get some new ones and fix it. You gotta love it!!!!
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I need one of those. Preferably with a southern accent! :D
 
shortxjdoug said:
how do i know i found the perfect woman for me? I bought her a muffler as a surprise present for her jeep and she got excited and told me to go weld it up as soon as it came in today...... sometimes its surreal to me ;)
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High2by said:
I know what you mean. When we had trouble on the trail with the coils, Anita said, let's get some new ones and fix it. You gotta love it!!!!
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And this is why I'm trading mine in for a newer model! :D :wierd: :moon:
 
My wife Angie is a better aluminum welder than me. She loves to TIG weld. I am so very fortunate

Oh, I forgot what I got on here to say. Got my first beadlock installed (thanks Tyler). On three more and a spare to go. Having never mounted a tire on a beadlock before......HOLY MOLY".......need to pack a lunch to get just one of these babies mounted. Just four more to go before the crawl.
 
chattacuda said:
My wife Angie is a better aluminum welder than me. She loves to TIG weld. I am so very fortunate
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WTF, send some of those up this way ya greedy bastids! :D
 
chattacuda said:
Ha ha. We need to keep them all here. You northerners wouldnt know what to do with these babies!
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I'd figure something out.....I don't wanna move but we do have a plant in NC......:D
 
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