umm..so lockers are amazing

[Ray H]

aussie front

what is that???

is it a full time lock in the front? they told me you cant drive in 2wd if you have the front lock all the time...is this true??

Not true,
Automatic lockers are locked by torque being applied to them. If theres no torque applied, they do not lock. If you are in 2WD, there is no torque going to the front differential so the locker is basically invisable.
There is a such thing as a "spool" thats what I consider a"fulltime lock". A spool is basically a solid piece of steel that spans the gap between the axle shafts so they are mechanically conected together at all times. You dont want one of those in the front at all unless you race in straight line mud bogs, cause thats about all theyre good for.

 

[Ray H]

I believe the lunchbox type lockers stay locked normally and only unlock in turns without power being applied. On snow or ice there isn't enough traction to allow the diff to unlock.

Its true that their normal condition is locked and they only unlock when one wheel overspeeds or spins faster than the ring gear (a negative torque condiition), such as the outer wheel when you turn. Give me a second to think, I have to think how about how they function with no torque applied and in coast mode. You may be right about them being locked while coasting or braking in a staight line.

 

[TNT]

Not true,
Automatic lockers are locked by torque being applied to them. If theres no torque applied, they do not lock. If you are in 2WD, there is no torque going to the front differential so the locker is basically invisable.
There is a such thing as a "spool" thats what I consider a"fulltime lock". A spool is basically a solid piece of steel that spans the gap between the axle shafts so they are mechanically conected together at all times. You dont want one of those in the front at all unless you race in straight line mud bogs, cause thats about all theyre good for.

Lunchbox lockers can stay locked. They make a ratcheting type sound when turning when they unlock do too the different wheel speeds and no power being applied. Without enough traction available to unlock they can stay locked when turning.

 

[Ray H]

Lunchbox lockers can stay locked. They make a ratcheting type sound when turning when they unlock do too the different wheel speeds and no power being applied. Without enough traction available to unlock they can stay locked when turning.

Yep, youre right. They are locked while coasting and braking in a straight line. So in 2WD they are also locked while traveling straight. As soon as you turn, one of the wheels overspeeds and it ratchets on that side. Without power applied to it though, you dont feel it grab and release like you do with power applied.

 

[Fast95Neon]

so locking the front and/or rear with an aussie on a daily driver
dry=safe?
snow=safe?
ice=safe?
rain=safe?

 

[Ray H]

so locking the front and/or rear with an aussie on a daily driver
dry=safe?
snow=safe?
ice=safe?
rain=safe?

Daily= safe but a little noisy and sloppy if rear locked, just noisy if front
dry= safe but can wear tires if you get on it alot, if rear locked
snow=safe just take your time and drive smoothly,
ice= not real safe no matter what you drive, especially if its locked in rear, stay at home if locked in front
rain=safe if you are light on the throttle if locked in rear, doesnt matter if locked in front.

 

[boise49ers]

I have a rear locker now and love it but what are the street driving mannerisms of having a front locker. Also When running 35"s what upgrades if any should you do to the D30 b/c wouldnt the axle get taxed more by having a front locker?

Chromo Shafts !

 

[Blaine B.]

Just do the rear and call it a day maybe?

 

[boise49ers]

Front all the way. Gets you over the falls and then you drag the ass over. I have both, but my front I had first and it made a lot bigger difference then what doing the rear has done. I have an Aussie in the front and a Detroit in the rear and XJs for 10 years. One way to not worry about it is just do both :laugh3:

 

[white_elephant]

ok i have a rear lock rigth....in my 8.25..

i want to lock the front what do i need?? i dont want to get ox or arb or hubs(those things that you turn that is in the center of the wheel).....

so what locker do i get?? is going to be a daily driver...and i get no snow or ice in here......

so....

what locker is it good for this in my d30??

 

[fubar XJ]

I've ran an automatic locker in the front before, and if you do much daily driving in snow or ice, I wouldn't recommend it. In fact, due to the reduced strain on drivetrain components and better handling characteristics, i'll never run an automatic in the front again. Got an ARB in the front of the CJ, an Ox in the plans for the front of the XJ.

 

[wishihad1]

i have an aussie up front and have never noticed it when i didn't want to. driven in snow, ice, rain...blah blah blah. never has had any ill affects on me on the road, and offroad it has been amazing. for the price you can buy an ARB you can lock out the front and rear, not have to worry about a compressor, lines, wiring, etc.

and i seriously havn't heard a click from it since break in. ill admit the first week i had it i was a bit dissappointed at how much noise it made. but since it broke in, i haven't heard a peep from it

 

[white_elephant]

can anyone show me where i could buy an ausie in the front??


what brand or w.e??

 

[WheelinJR]

dana 30 front aussie

http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddetail.php?prod=AL-XD-13027

 

[white_elephant]

i just want to get this clear up before i get it and then it doesnt work as i expected to work...


i have a rear lock rigth....which its always lock..and u could feel it sometimes when daily driving ..

the aussie locker?? is just like that but for daily drivers??

because if a get a lock rigth in the front they told me i needed disconect hubs ...or buy an arb or ox...which i cant afford now...so...

if i get the aussie locker i could drive everyday with no problems?? besides the clicking ?

 

[WheelinJR]

aussies and lock rights are basically the same.

 

[white_elephant]

well i know....that i get it.

:hang: can i daily drive my xj with it??????can i get in the high way and hit 65 with a problem??? can i drive and make u turns??? i know it wont be like before but i mean :


with out having to add this:

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16132_99_07.htm


????

 

[Rockhound89]

I have a newbie question that I have been kicking around why not run a mini spool in the back and the locker up front?? I mean the mini spool for an 8.8 is like $135 and it is always locked so you don’t have to worry about the pop and snap that I have heard people talk about with a locker. Just wondering??

 

[WheelinJR]

alot of people daily drive aussies in the front...not a problem.

spool as a daily, not great.

 

[xjkevin]

i run a spool in the rear and aussie up front on non d/d, and my next mod will be remove the spool, and replace with a detroit, the spool sucks.