- Location
- San Juan Ridge, CA
Sorry to hear it is giving you so much trouble. This is way beyond my skills to figure out.
...sorry...another build thread...
- Thread starter blondejoncherokee
- Start date
- Location
- Patterson, Ca
What is your toe setting? On my old waggy on 39.5" iroks a 1/4-1/2" of toe out was the only thing that worked. Until I added the hydraulic assist, it acts like a stabilizer on roids and caster and toe almost didn't matter with it on.
- Location
- Virginia City, NV
Seriously John. Why haven't you added assist yet?
blondejoncherokee
NAXJA Member
- Location
- sacramento
Yah I've been looking into assist, thats coming soon. For now the stabilizer masks it, but without a stabilizer its shitty.
I just set the toe to 0 last night and still had it-no stabilizer on. I think Ill try 1/4" out then 1/2" out, then just get used to rolling with a stabilizer. I think the hydro assist will be nice, probably be cheaper than new tires at the moment, although ill be considering new tires soon enough.
I just set the toe to 0 last night and still had it-no stabilizer on. I think Ill try 1/4" out then 1/2" out, then just get used to rolling with a stabilizer. I think the hydro assist will be nice, probably be cheaper than new tires at the moment, although ill be considering new tires soon enough.
CAJJ93XJ
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Roseville, CA
toe out?? isn't it supposed to be slightly toed in? driving home with 1/2" toe out was the scariest drive I've ever had in my jeep.. it drives itself toed out
- Location
- WA state
Some Fail Wheel Drive vehicles run toe-out, as the wheels get pulled in under accel and can cause wear.
But, with a vehicle with LARGE tires, if may or may not work.
Jon, just get some nice 35's!
But, with a vehicle with LARGE tires, if may or may not work.
Jon, just get some nice 35's!
- Location
- Patterson, Ca
I didn't say it was awesome toed out, but it worked to get home without death wobble.
- Location
- San Diego
If toe out is getting rid of death wobble, then your issue is in the trackbar or drag link/steering box.
Please explain your logic. I'm curious.
moparmansfield
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Portland
throw a gopro on the bottom of your front bumper pointing at your front axle and see exactly where the movement is. worked for me.
- Location
- San Diego
Honestly, I can't.
the physics of how toe-in affects the harmonics of the trackbar/draglink were explained to me once, but I didn't understand it then, and I couldn't properly explain it now.
basically the tires being toed out not allowing the harmonic oscillation that results in death wobble to build.
all I can say is the guy who explained it to me and told me how to use toe-out to diagnose death wobble is one of the smartest people around and probably knows more about the suspension and steering involved in solid axle'd vehicles than anyone.
and it works. I have used the technique to diagnose worn out steering boxes, worn out Tie-rod ends, worn out trackbar joints, etc.
blondejoncherokee
NAXJA Member
- Location
- sacramento
Nice, good to know rockclimber. Ill try some toe out to see how it does.
well since box is new, and the hiems only have 3 easy runs, I am thinking its either the tires, or maybe some shot hiems all around, which would make me less stoked on ruffstuff hiems if they only lasted 3 easier runs, I cant imagine putting it through some hell.
I also like the go pro idea, just need to get a go pro.
well since box is new, and the hiems only have 3 easy runs, I am thinking its either the tires, or maybe some shot hiems all around, which would make me less stoked on ruffstuff hiems if they only lasted 3 easier runs, I cant imagine putting it through some hell.
I also like the go pro idea, just need to get a go pro.
Very interesting. Thanks for the info!
- Location
- San Diego
just know that toe-out is pretty hard on tires, so don't do it for long.
if you still haven't had your tires balanced, I would do that before anything. it is the most common cause of death wobble.
- Location
- Virginia City, NV
I would find a set of stock rollers on cl and try them out. The speed at which the dw will start is going to be different but a good confirmation that tires would be the issue. I donated my spare set to Tim and the give away jeep or I'd have a set to pass your way. Maybe someone else has a stockish set they could let you borrow.
blondejoncherokee
NAXJA Member
- Location
- sacramento
I on 5 on 5.5 anyway. I think ill get em balanced soon before I mess with toe out then. It looks like ill probably be ordering parts for hydro assist anyway. 140$ for everything is pretty good.
Rob D
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Pittsburg CA
Where did you find this. That seems like a heck of a deal. The ones I saw where around $200 for just the ram and hoses, and a grand for the kits, ouch!
