Project New Gen Comanche

"Borrowed" a couple of smilies from ComancheClub...........

One for me....

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And one for the Truggy.... :thumbup:

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roof is easy.
i ll make you a carbon fiber roof skin but ya have to cage the insides.


YELLAHEEP said:
Yeah, DJ and I had done quite a bit of discussing what would be involved in extending the cab, but we were looking at just adding the length of a set of 2 door doors. Got to thinking that if one were to take a hard hit '98+ 2 door and cut it at the windshield pilars, then across the floor pan just at the notch where the "B" pillar/door sil meets the floor and pull the rear away.

Then cut the Comanche in the same locations, but leave the unibody frame rails intact up to the lower control arms. Remove the MJ floor pan.

Remove the frame rails under the 2dr section, but leave the floor pan in place.

Roll the two sections together until the doors close on the back of the MJ cab and then take measurements to extend the roof, and the frame rails. Then you'd have to make some box steel sleeves to go into and between the frame rail sections.

Then the hard stuff would be to get all the sections made and welded in place to support everything - the roof being the hardest I imagine.

The reason I won't be doing this kind of project is that I don't have enough experience in unibody work or sheet metal (roof).

But it sure would be cool. DJ has a pic of what the completed project would look like..... he's posted it before in other threads.
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YELLAHEEP said:
This MJ is just plain SICK!...... gawd...... :loveu:

http://comancheclub.com/topic/27668-h3resqs-dream-mj-the-build-continues/?p=388686


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eflores said:
wonder how much he's going to ask for it?
think he'd trade for my two door? lol
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Sure is nice...but not $28k nice...

I think you could have a shop replicate that for you for far less. I know I could do it, and have a 6.0L in it for probably half that.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/vehi...79313-90-99-jeep-comanche-eliminator-28k.html

He should be happy to get anywhere near $10-12k. This market (the offroad market) is not a nice one on getting money back you put in.

In response to a jab at the price on Pirate:

"Its not to much for me, in fact that's a fraction of what I have in it."

GOOD GOD man...HOW...HOW do you have MORE than $28k into that!? (Unless he had a shop do EVERYTHING)
 
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That has to be a checkbook rig with absolutely no price shopping involved. Beautiful, but GODDAMN! :shocked:
 
My response to his ad on pirate:

"That kinda has me curious...and asking "how?" (in relation to his asking price).

(Somewhat to quell what many on Pirate are thinking)

The problem i'm sure many see is yes, it is a beautiful MJ that any of us would love to have (and one that i've followed)...but when it comes to the specs list...it's not much different or over the top than that of many other built XJ/MJ's floating around that have got for less than a 1/4 of that price. (Not on 1 tons, motor though a stroker is still a 4.0, still an AW4, still a NP231, etc.)

That is what you might have to spell out for people. Just trying to give ya a heads up."

His response:

"Ok, I will explain. First 1/4 price MJ/XJ's floating around. That is $7000. Show me these rigs? Show me a XJ/MJ this clean with a real stroker (not some mail order spec stroker) 44's, coilovers, nice paint, cage, ready to wheel or DD. In fact show me one for 3/4 my price (That's $21,000 btw) Now, keep in mind this is a MJ, not a XJ. You could not buy this, it has to be built by finding two rigs. Now, consider the quality of the swap this truck has. Now consider the interior, the extra little details, the quality of fab work, etc. etc. (you say you have followed the truck, so you should know this is not a junk build)
Ok, TONS...well look at this build. It is about a drivable wheeler. The build is based around Washington trails and drivability. 35's and the rig size makes 60's complete overkill. It has the right axle choice for the rig, And they are extremely well built.
OK, Stroker. Well it is built to wheel. So why would I swap in a small block when I want TOURQUE not horsepower. I like it Jeep and the 4.0 is a great motor. Only other option even considered would be a alum. 5.3 for 80lbs of weight saved. But not worth it in the long run.
AW4..great trans that is known for holding up well. Fits without cutting up the interior and plenty for the build.
T-CASE, again...plenty for the build.
Anyone that really wants this rig will know it can't be built for close to this, and will appreciate the detail, and quality of the build.
It is worth the price."

I really think this is the kinda guy that doesn't see the forest through the trees.

Seems like my/everyone else's point is lost on him.

And I HAVE seen some very clean, very well built XJ's/MJ's for near that price.

The "In fact show me one for 3/4 my price (That's $21,000 btw)" comment has me :laugh2:

Something tells me he's going to be holding onto that rig forever with what he wants for it.
 
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I've actually thought about building an MJ...would love to basically have that truck, but build it myself.

For $10k:

- MJ platform
- LQ4 or LQ9 6.0L
- 4L60E or 4L80E trans
- D300 (or something close)
- Coilovers
- Bumps
- Sway Bars
- D60 front / 14B Rear (or 44/9")
- Nice AL Beadlocks
- Tubing
- Complete Interior Swap to 97+ (would use Autometer gauges for the dash panel)

Yes there would be some work on the one who's building it's end (setting gears, building bumpers, tubework, etc.) But all that could be done for right around $10k and you would have a BITCHIN MJ.

Now to turn that dream into a reality :D
 
I could easily see him having that kind of money tied up into the rig if he bought all the parts brand new and paid to have them installed. Especially when you take the body work into account. That's also not adding in the updated interior. That's said, sorry bro but as much as I would absolutely love to have that MJ, I sure as hell aint paying almost 30K for it. I could see myself paying 10-12K, but not 30K. That's a bit ridiculous.
 
If someone told me they'd give me 28k to build that rig for them I would literally ask when they'd have a deposit for me and start buying parts.

I guarantee I could profit AT LEAST 10-15k on that.
 
Jeez..... muddy-up my nifty MJ thread with all this negative crap about his pricing/valuation........ who cares? Bitchin' truck is all I was saying.

Don't throw the money at the guy if ya think it's over priced.

Personally, I call B.S. on you guys saying you could build it for $10-$12K..... no friggin' way. $30K? yeah, someone else got paid some labor to get to that valuation. But it'd take an easy $15-$20K to copy that truck to that standard. Sure, you could build "similar" for less...... but you ain't getting a twin of it for less.

I believe he'd get his $28K and possibly more if he took it to Barrett Jackson.

Now, shaddup all of ya. :D
 
YELLAHEEP said:
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Personally, I call B.S. on you guys saying you could build it for $10-$12K..... no friggin' way. $30K? yeah, someone else got paid some labor to get to that valuation. But it'd take an easy $15-$20K to copy that truck to that standard. Sure, you could build "similar" for less...... but you ain't getting a twin of it for less.
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That's what I'm saying. Chromoly shafts all around, spare chromoly shafts, fox coil overs, high quality Stroker build (a Golen is over 4K and I bet this one was more expensive) plus all the other parts. That's not even counting body work and paint. Sorry, you're not building that exact rig at the same quality for 10k$
 
Id give em 8k tops. The offroad selling market sucks and is cruel!! You never ever get back what you put in!!! He is dumb for expecting that plain and simple.
 
DutchVDub said:
That's what I'm saying. Chromoly shafts all around, spare chromoly shafts, fox coil overs, high quality Stroker build (a Golen is over 4K and I bet this one was more expensive) plus all the other parts. That's not even counting body work and paint. Sorry, you're not building that exact rig at the same quality for 10k$
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You and Troy don't think it can be done, but I know for a fact it can after building my buggy.

One of the big this is not wasting friggen money (espcially $4k!?!?) on a 4.0.

I'll never understand why (unless you did everything yourself) you would sink another dime into a 4.0L.

Doubt it all you want, but I could do the exact same thing for less than half of that. But, then again it would involve me actually doing work not just writing checks :rolleyes:
 
Kittrell said:
Justin, his thread is gone. Must have not had such a warm reception to the price.

New thread.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/vehicles-trailers-sale/1281962-90-99-jeep-comanche-eliminator-mj.html
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I basically said "This is Pirate, your going to really have to prove to people that it is worth what your asking." in what I felt what a pretty nice tone considering other posts.

Thats when he came off with his "This jeep is holier than though" attitude :rolleyes:

I don't know if he realizes that his rig with that price might not get much scrutiny at JU or JeepForum....but it WILL on Pirate.

There are some NICE and well built rigs going for that much. Hell there was a setup I was contemplating getting for $29k. It was a ready to race Ultra4 car WITH semi-truck/enclosed cabin hauler. SO tempting :D
 
YELLAHEEP said:
I believe he'd get his $28K and possibly more if he took it to Barrett Jackson.
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Whatever Troy... You just want to keep MJ prices artificially inflated since you keep selling MJs you own every other month. :eyes:
 
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