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Eagle said:
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What’s wrong there Eagle? Came here looking for a fight only to see you can't?
Both things that I have said are valid are they not? On one hand it looks like the boys run the troop, on the other it looks like the adults run the troop.
Maybe from now on we should have patience with everyone and let them express and form their opinions as opposed to slamming them saying they are wrong. Now I believe we are all at fault for this, I’m not excluding myself here. I made a comment without fully explaining myself, and people jumped on me for that. They did the same thing I did, didn’t say why they felt that way. So it just continued to escalate. Once I began expressing my ideas, I hope everything came clear. It even came clear to me as well. I see that the adults do run the troop, but so do the boys. The boys must be given the opportunity to do this, or else they will learn nothing. The adults are there to make sure the boys don’t screw up, which someone stated earlier.
 
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Z22_Z33 said:
What’s wrong there Eagle? Came here looking for a fight only to see you can't?
Both things that I have said are valid are they not? On one hand it looks like the boys run the troop, on the other it looks like the adults run the troop.
Maybe from now on we should have patience with everyone and let them express and form their opinions as opposed to slamming them saying they are wrong. Now I believe we are all at fault for this, I’m not excluding myself here. I made a comment without fully expressing myself, and people jumped on me for that. They did the same thing I did, didn’t say why they felt that way. So it just continued to escalate. Once I began expressing my ideas, I hope everything came clear. It even came clear to me as well. I see that the adults do run the troop, but so do the boys. The boys must be given the opportunity to do this, or else they will learn nothing. The adults are there to make sure the boys don’t screw up, which someone stated earlier.
Are you still a scout? I just read your Bio. It says you were born in 84. That makes you 19 or 20 depending on what month you were born in. So what are you doing making such a huge deal out of little boys running the scouts. You are an adult START ACTING LIKE ONE.
 
Z22_Z33 said:
What’s wrong there Eagle? Came here looking for a fight only to see you can't?
Both things that I have said are valid are they not? On one hand it looks like the boys run the troop, on the other it looks like the adults run the troop.
Maybe from now on we should have patience with everyone and let them express and form their opinions as opposed to slamming them saying they are wrong. Now I believe we are all at fault for this, I’m not excluding myself here. I made a comment without fully explaining myself, and people jumped on me for that. They did the same thing I did, didn’t say why they felt that way. So it just continued to escalate. Once I began expressing my ideas, I hope everything came clear. It even came clear to me as well. I see that the adults do run the troop, but so do the boys. The boys must be given the opportunity to do this, or else they will learn nothing. The adults are there to make sure the boys don’t screw up, which someone stated earlier.
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DrMoab said:
Are you still a scout? I just read your Bio. It says you were born in 84. That makes you 19 or 20 depending on what month you were born in. So what are you doing making such a huge deal out of little boys running the scouts. You are an adult START ACTING LIKE ONE.

That is what I am doing. I am standing up for what I believe is right. It is an organization I have been a part of for well over 12-14 years, and will be glad to put my son into(and no I do not have a son yet, and please leave this comment alone). Now how can I simply drop it when people say I should be ashamed of what I am a part of, and do not understand it. It is a very large deal to me Dr. Moab. It is a lot like how people make a big deal about their education, or military service. We were a part of it. We believe that is was run correctly and shouldn’t be tampered with. If it is it might somehow diminish not only what we did but the people who are currently in and who could go into what we did.

(What you don’t believe I was born on tax day? Well I don’t think my calendar goes back 20 years, but I believe it was a weekend, so technically I wasn't :D)
 
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Z22_Z33 said:
What’s wrong there Eagle? Came here looking for a fight only to see you can't?
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Dude, not cool to bust on Eagle. Even though I backed you up on one little point you took long enough to say what I said in one post. You've done got yourself enough neg. reputation points to last you a while. See Eagle's, Dr. Moabs, CW's, Glen's, and Urban Redneck's reputation bars? I belive they deserve a little respect.
 
Z22_Z33 said:
It is a very large deal to me Dr. Moab. It is much like how people make a large deal about their education, or military service. We were a part of it. We believe that is was run correctly and shouldn’t be tampered with. If it is it might somehow diminish not only what we did but the people who are currently in and who could go into what we did.

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You ever hear that saying"I wish all my problems would have happend to me when I was a kid and knew everything"? This is what you sound like to me.
I am not saying anything against the Boy Scouts. I happen to belive the are an ok organization(except when they burn whole forests down) I just think its funny that there is about 49 older,way smarter, and much wiser then you trying to tell you something and you aren't even listening.
I could be wrong here but I don't think that I am in saying that you have NO respect for your elders. Isn't this one thing the scouts are really big on? Helping the elderly across the street and that sort of thing? I have never served in the Military...I was a snot nosed kid when I was that age and didn't think I should have to.30 years old now and looking back at my past and looking at what is going on in the world today I wish I had served.
I look at the many Vets that are on this board and they make me proud!! I wish I could personaly thank them each in person and shake their hands.
They deserve respect! You don't seem to know how to give that. If you would just sit back and THINK about the things they are telling you, you would go on to be a much better adult. Nobody here is picking on you because of how you feel about the scouts,Iraq, explosives or anything else. If they are picking on you its because they are trying to show you the way the real world works and you are just turning up your nose.
How sad.
 
Z22_Z33 said:
Now how can I simply drop it when people say I should be ashamed of what I am a part of, and do not understand it.
The answer to the first part of your question ("How can I simply drop it ...?") is easy ... by doing so. It's how we deal with Internet trolls ... we ignore them, and pretty soon they go away.

As the the second part, please direct me to anyone's post in ANY of the threads involving you, the Boy Scouts, and your Eagle Scout status where they have suggested that you should be ashamed of being a part of the Boy Scouts.
 
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Z, drop the attitude, the chip on the shoulder, whatever. Shut up and read the posts. You don't know it all, but you come off like you think you do. You don't have to argue every post into the ground. It's getting rather :speepin: . Do yourself and everyone else a favor and just let it go. You ask for info, get the info, then argue that the info is wrong, even though you started by saying...I don't know the info. It is pretty amusing, but at the same time....Hasta
 
Eagle said:
The answer to the first part of your question ("How can I simply drop it ...?") is easy ... by doing so. It's how we deal with Internet trolls ... we ignore them, and pretty soon they go away.

As the the second part, please direct me to anyone's post in ANY of the threads involving you, the Boy Scouts, and your Eagle Scout status where they have suggested that you should be ashamed of being a part of the Boy Scouts.

If I knew how to use the quote button to put multiple quotes at once from people in here I would. Please sir could you read the rest of what I wrote I gave valid reasons right there to why I couldn’t drop it. (and no I am not meaning to be disrespectful by calling you sir)
 
Eagle said:
I very much doubt that the scouts actually run the organization. The adults may allow you a degree of autonomy under their supervision, but I'm sure they retain veto power and ultimate control.

Falls under the catagory of dont understand.
 
Urban Redneck said:
Go buy a ** clue, put the bong down, let go of the tree...don't you have to save one of your rock heros from blowing his brains out? Hope your Eagle Scout training taught you how to....never mind, you're not worth it...
 
Z22_Z33 said:
And how am I suppose to take this?
Laugh about it like the rest of us do and quit taking yourself so seriously,kid!
Like I said I have nothing against the scouts and I thought it was funny as hell. Just lighten up a bit...roll with the punches and learn that just because someone picks on you a little bit doesn't mean you have to defend yourself to the bitter end.
You need to turn 21 so you can have a beer or two...Loosen you up a bit!
 
Z22_Z33 said:
And how am I suppose to take this?
How? Dunno. Apparently a qualified Boy Scout was awared a prize or badge.

Are you wondering if that child is not qualified? Or upset that it is an adult and not a boy awarding it to him? You lost me on your point here.
 
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