- Location
- Rainy side of Washington
it's called a revolutionary caster adjuster because it likes to revolve while you are wheeling hasta
Iron rock offroad long arm upgrade
- Thread starter krawler09
- Start date
- Location
- Patterson, Ca
4 link with a panhard, aka 5 link? Also arms are so short you end up with huge angle changes during suspension travel, resulting in significant changes in caster and pinion angle. Works fine at stock height, not so much when lifted. The arms are stamped sheetmetal junk. I'd much rather run any aftermarket arm than the stock crap.
- Location
- Lafayette, CA
In this industry, no one counts the panhard as a link.
So your radius arm 3link clusterfluff sees small changes in caster when the suspension moves throughout its travel?
- Location
- Rainy side of Washington
you have no idea how much abuse those sheetmetal arms can stand up to.
I blew up 3 uppers (2 bent, one broke in half) and only mildly kinked a single lower in 3 years of abusive wheeling on 33s, including stuffing the frontend into a ledge so hard I dented the rims and a few runs that involved installing brand new shocks before leaving and warrantying them when I got home because they were bent and the bushing eyes had torn off.
I always carried spares and expected to use them, but never needed spare lowers... ended up replacing them with aftermarket ones because the bushings wore out.
I'd rather run stock control arms than IRO "longarms" that are actually radius arms with a built-in weak point I've seen fail. Sucks for the ZJ/WJ guys though because apparently the IROs are about the best priced kit out there for them...
souske
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- The land of competition
You sir, are a 'tard
Mnkyboy
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Sandy,Oregon
Goofy 5 link short arm junk FTW.
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MaxxXJ
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bakersfield CA
Goofy 5 link short arm junk FTW.
Can't count that as short arms, you have drop brackets...
MaxxXJ
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bakersfield CA
This is actual short arms with stock uppers and 4" lift, thinking my shocks being 8" travel and stock steering limit me some
Just picked up these 33's Saturday so I was out flexing to see what was needed to be trimmed.
Just picked up these 33's Saturday so I was out flexing to see what was needed to be trimmed.
Mnkyboy
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Sandy,Oregon
Depends how you look at it I guess, its more or less the full evolution of short arms.
MaxxXJ
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bakersfield CA
Like stage 2 of a Pokémon? Lol
Mnkyboy
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- Location
- Sandy,Oregon
Something like that.
- Location
- NE Texas
This is actual short arms with stock uppers and 4" lift, thinking my shocks being 8" travel and stock steering limit me some
Just picked up these 33's Saturday so I was out flexing to see what was needed to be trimmed.
That's cute..
Iron rock long arms:
People ask for the forum's opinion, i.e. the original point of this thread.
We are trying to give out good advice, like "I understand how suspensions work and I think the IRO kit looks sketchy. You are potentially putting your front pinion, driveshaft, trackbar, shocks, steering, etc in jeopardy if you run the kit and either of the two known weak points fail."
If they buy it after reading alllllll the threads on this forum and others about the kit, then so be it. Good luck.
If I'm going with a 'budget' setup, I'd rather replace worn joints every once in a while (or just throw in some quality joints from another company) than worry every time I wheel if that caster adjuster is going to stay where it's supposed to.
- Location
- NE Texas
Are you for real?
How about this rig..
IRO long arm. 4 years old. Daily driven 3 of those years. Probably 5k pure trail miles.
Please, enlighten me on his "luck". :dunno:
MoparManiac
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Amherst, NH
Can we just ban IRO threads?
- Location
- Vancouver, WA
Are you for real?
How about this rig..
IRO long arm. 4 years old. Daily driven 3 of those years. Probably 5k pure trail miles.
Please, enlighten me on his "luck". :dunno:
I don't wheel.... I only hang out at the mall, next to Starbucks
ktm racer 419
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- ROW DIALIN
Like said, you don't have to be a mechanical engineer to realize that there is an obvious weak link in this system. What some people see as "acceptable" others see as a ticking time bomb. Myself and many others arent ok with "good enough" We want confidence that our front end is going to stay in one piece and get us home. If that bolt goes, other front end components go out with it.
You can't really believe this kit will survive for everyone under hard wheeling do you? Why doesn't everyone else build 3 links with 10mm bolts then? Its not like the failures are a myth we all made up.
(And of course this thread would turn into a flex contest lol)
You can't really believe this kit will survive for everyone under hard wheeling do you? Why doesn't everyone else build 3 links with 10mm bolts then? Its not like the failures are a myth we all made up.
(And of course this thread would turn into a flex contest lol)
- Location
- Vancouver, WA
Have you ever seen one fail?
Like really seen one?
I jump my jeep (like really, all 4 tires come off the ground)
Still have not replaced so much as a bushing....
Factory is a 10mm bolt and the upper is made from a soda can... Come one really? A soda can
I see Pepsi printed on my uppers when I took them off.. But a 10mm bolt is going to fail.
I've see TONs of uppers crush like pop cans... Never seen the bolt fail.
Mnkyboy
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Sandy,Oregon
Nicks input is interesting to me being that he went from a true 3 link to the IRO kit.
ktm racer 419
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- Location
- ROW DIALIN
I think I'm stupid for actually continuing to participate in this thread.
