Iron rock offroad long arm upgrade

Omg you jump your jeep redjeep2.0????!??!?????!!??!??!??!

I don't know anyone who does that
 
I kinda feel like Ted nugent with his "locked cocked ready to rock" rifle that has sat that way for years an yet to kill anyone.

I walk out in my backyard. I see that jeep on the trailer. And it's loaded with IRO man killer parts. Liberal naysayers are trying to convince me it's dangerous. But my common sense tells me I know 10 rigs with the IRO LA kit. I'm fine. Don't worry


But now I'm scared to go out there alone. My own backyard. That 10mm bolt was on CNN as an assault weapon that has killed hundreds of kids:jester:
 
More like the sword of damocles than a rifle :jester:

You get unlucky once in the wrong way and that shit is all over the place. Maybe you will, maybe you won't, as for myself I will run a higher quality setup that isn't designedin sketchy ways instead of defending it to the bitter end...
 
The shorter the arms and the steeper the angles, the greater the caster change throughout suspension travel. What I meant by the 4 link comment is its a short arm, non-triangulated pos with horrible angles with anything over a 3" lift. I point out the cost of replacing the weak factory arms and the guy posts that he broke 3 uppers but the lowers were fine. Quality adjustable uppers and drop brackets and you are still approaching the cost of the IRO kit. Will it hold up for everyone? No, but show me a suspension that will. I've seen broken dana 60 knuckles, 3/4" heim joints, steel rims split in 2, does that mean those parts aren't strong enough for everyone? This kit is an entry level kit at an entry level price. If you plan on hardcore wheeling I'd suggest not buying a kit. You won't be running stock axles and you better learn how to weld or find a friend who does. Entry level bolt on kit at a very competitive price. After several years of wheeling and an increasingly difficult terrain choice would I buy it again? No, but I now own a quality welder and fabrication tools and would go straight to 1 tons if I was building a new jeep. Am I going to pull it out of the wife's wj and build a better suspension? No, it has worked impressively for 3 years and until it fails she will continue to run it.
 
Starboard M said:
In this industry, no one counts the panhard as a link.


So your radius arm 3link clusterfluff sees small changes in caster when the suspension moves throughout its travel?
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souske said:
You sir, are a 'tard
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zachandandy said:
The shorter the arms and the steeper the angles, the greater the caster change throughout suspension travel.
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I'm sure those 2 comments were made towards simply the caster change you mentioned.

A y link, or radius arm, or whatever you want to call the iro setup has a more intense caster/pinion angle change than the stock 4 link upon travel at any lift height.

But its a pretty stupid deciding factor as to what suspension to run regardless imo. As long as its dialed in at ride height, you are good to go.
 
kastein said:
More like the sword of damocles than a rifle :jester:

You get unlucky once in the wrong way and that shit is all over the place. Maybe you will, maybe you won't, as for myself I will run a higher quality setup that isn't designedin sketchy ways instead of defending it to the bitter end...
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That's jeep life. I've seen alot of unpredictable part failures. Nothing's impossible.


But I can't sit here and not stick up for something that was designed by an American. Tested by the designer and then built by Americans in an American manufacturing company with American steel. Backed by a warranty

Can you say that about rough country?

Search google for Iron rock Offroad. It's so much easier to bash a product than to defend it. This thread is full of the same 20odd guys that always chime in. Meanwhile. The thousands that have it simply don't care to argue with the Populous


I get it. It's an odd design. And yes there are other options. But in the $600 range. This one is not much more then a short arm kit. And it's been proven by thousands.

Again. I'm not an IRO fanboi. Like I said. I went Clayton's. but a budget rig is still getting Made In USA, over Chinese crap like Rough country
 
That's cool, yeah there are always unpredictable breaks and carnage, but again, I don't see a need to add more possible points of failure to save what, 50 bucks on some stamped metal and a few welds instead of a threaded adjuster setup? It's like acknowledging that the cards are stacked against you and then handing the other dude a few 2s and 3s for the hell of it.

Clayton is another american company that does everything in house and they don't make sketch stuff like that. Kinda pricey, which is why I have 700 bucks worth of ruffstuff 3 link kit parts sitting on the shelf waiting for me to get off my ass and build something. Another american company...

Edit: oh and talk to 2doorxj, he had that hinky adjuster thing fail on him, some of the pics in this thread are his. They didn't honor the warranty, as I recall. He now runs a custom setup he built himself, iirc from ruffstuff parts.
 
Here let me shit in this thread too.SHORT ARMS and NO drop brackets.
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Now i went with long arms and i got a little more flex.I won't post any pic's of them cause you guys will just cry over the flex i get.Thats all the
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I can do for the day.Have a nice day
 
Kastein. I think we are as close to the "same page" as we are gonna get on this subject..


I look at the IRO kit as a better option then short arms or Rough country.

But I don't claim them to be the only kit I would own. There is nothing wrong with saying the IRO kit is an entry level kit where as the Clayton's kit is more of a premium kit. Aswell as the BDS 4 link being a better design all around.
 
NW-ZJ-SCOTT said:
I look at the IRO kit as a better option then short arms or Rough country.
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Funny you would say RC, cause that is what i run.Should say thats what i was running when those pic's were taken.They have NO flex as you can see.The ride sucked, to dam soft too.:dunno: I never had a problem with my RC lift, heck the wife has it on hers now that i went long arms.Guess it pays to go cheap some times.:shhh:
 
NW-ZJ-SCOTT said:
Kastein. I think we are as close to the "same page" as we are gonna get on this subject..


I look at the IRO kit as a better option then short arms or Rough country.

But I don't claim them to be the only kit I would own. There is nothing wrong with saying the IRO kit is an entry level kit where as the Clayton's kit is more of a premium kit. Aswell as the BDS 4 link being a better design all around.
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I can agree with that. I just wish they'd dump that crazy adjuster, if they would, I'd have absolutely no problem with how their setup is put together. It's fine for an entry level setup or mallcrawling that's for sure.

I haven't really had an issue with short arms yet (Rough Country lowers and teraflex adjustable uppers, would run em again), my issues are in the rubber I'm running, rear leafs lacking flex, and the dumbshit someone put between the chair and steering wheel. Probably mostly the last part.
 
NW-ZJ-SCOTT said:
With all that knowledge and wisdom you could atleast be a paid member.
:dunno:
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He's 21 post's in.. He's still new. As for me I have no excuse except that my city is the mutt of Naxja, they couldn't decide weather I'm apart of the SoCal or Sierra chpt. and as a result anything and everything is a long drive away to participate in like meet and greets/runs and events...
 
Hey max i know how you feel, i have to drive for hours for a M&G.This is why i started having them out here in Palm Springs area.Just post up and see who bites.I had 12 people show up at one of mine out here, i was shocked.
 
NW-ZJ-SCOTT said:
thats cute.
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Hey... Don't hate on my super flexy beast :-) that's the IRO short arms lol

I'm not afraid to run the long arms soon, what size lift are you running?
What length of shock? And are they in the stock locations... I have 4" on 33's And Im trying to see what I need and how much shock travel I can get away with, I was thinking some 12" short bodied bilsteins. I know I need to measure and/or bump stop accordingly but I'm still curious as to what your running... 4 inches is about as high as I wanna run
 
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