errrrrr....

[red91]

Beware gentiles, "the chosen ones" control all.

CRASH

NOT YET I dont...

 

[Lawn Cher']

I suppose next you'll be trying to control my diesel fuel supply, right?

If you only knew how right you are...

Farmer Matt will be looking to grow Jatropha instead of almonds, although algae is the oil crop of the future.

 

[Bent]

"Mom, have you heard about the plight of our Mexican cousins to the south? Do you know that our close-minded government actually tries to keep them out of this country? Mom, they are crawling through the desert on their hands and knees to get here, and we keep sending them back. CRASH

Don't forget our refusal to put drinking fountains and sun shades.

Talk about no regard for human rights!

 

[Lupine]

There's only one possible solution to the deadly combination of estrogen and liberalism.

Lithium. Make it a double.

CRASH

What about estrogen and libertarianism? Answer carefully.

 

[CRASH]

What about estrogen and libertarianism? Answer carefully.

In that case, I like to just knock the girl up. Keep her busy, barefoot, and pregnant.

CRASH

 

[CRASH]

Oh, i almost forgot an important part:

"Son, that is so noble, I knew you'd come around. One question, where are you going to take the destitute masses?

Why mother, I'm going to bring them home, of course. I really think everyone needs to contribute to saving the working people of the world, and after all, you know the saying 'Charity starts at home.'"




Now the key to this ploy is to bring on the liberalism slowly. Lefties can smell a rat from a mile away. They're hard to infiltrate, so you've got to go slow. It's going to hurt worse than a bourbon enema, spouting this namby-pamby nonsense, but you've got to be strong. It wouldn't hurt to start smoking a little dope and offering a toke to dear old Mom as well.

The idea here is to use her liberalism against her. Whatever she spews, spew it back double-left. Push her boundaries until you get left of her, and then you can have some real fun by accusing her of being a reactionary, a Bush lover, a right wing wacko, etc.

I bet if you play it right, you can drvie her right to the asylum in your newly re-acquired Jeep.

Good Luck kid. Report back results of this experiment.

CRASH

I say fight lefty wacko-ism with even more wacko-ism.

Tell your mom you have used your week of grounding to think about how the world works. You've really come to see that America is responsible for most of the world's problems, our bourgeois ways and excessive consumerism is ruining the third world. Jews are in control of the media/government/military complex, etc, etc. Throw in some GW hating for good measure.

Here's the capper:

"Mom, have you heard about the plight of our Mexican cousins to the south? Do you know that our close-minded government actually tries to keep them out of this country? Mom, they are crawling through the desert on their hands and knees to get here, and we keep sending them back. I've decided I'm going to make it my life's pursuit to help these poor souls. I have decided to turn my Jeep into a Mexican Rescue Vehicle. I am going to roam the hills and dales of Southern Arizona helping these folks. Mom, will you help me raise the money to modify my Jeep for this important duty?"

Don't forget to sound like you care. A Sally Struther's tear would be helpful.

CRASH

 

[ECKSJAY]

In that case, I like to just knock the girl up. Keep her busy, barefoot, and pregnant.

CRASH

But only with her consent, of course.


Phil
Keeping it Libertarian

 

[CRASH]

But only with her consent, of course.


Phil
Keeping it Libertarian

They have a say?

 

[Ramsey]

you are an evil evil man

Oh, i almost forgot an important part:

"Son, that is so noble, I knew you'd come around. One question, where are you going to take the destitute masses?

Why mother, I'm going to bring them home, of course. I really think everyone needs to contribute to saving the working people of the world, and after all, you know the saying 'Charity starts at home.'"




Now the key to this ploy is to bring on the liberalism slowly. Lefties can smell a rat from a mile away. They're hard to infiltrate, so you've got to go slow. It's going to hurt worse than a bourbon enema, spouting this namby-pamby nonsense, but you've got to be strong. It wouldn't hurt to start smoking a little dope and offering a toke to dear old Mom as well.

The idea here is to use her liberalism against her. Whatever she spews, spew it back double-left. Push her boundaries until you get left of her, and then you can have some real fun by accusing her of being a reactionary, a Bush lover, a right wing wacko, etc.


I bet if you play it right, you can drvie her right to the asylum in your newly re-acquired Jeep.

Good Luck kid. Report back results of this experiment.

CRASH

 

[ECKSJAY]

They have a say?

In a libertarian society they do. Ask Ayn Rand, she'll tell ya.

 

[Beej]

Only Americans can tell the difference between 'liberalism' and 'conservatism' in their country. The rest of the world views them the same....

Pure Socialism----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pure Totalitarianism

^ ^
| |
| Conservatism
Liberalism
​

:sunshine:

 

[Lupine]

Only Americans can tell the difference between 'liberalism' and 'conservatism' in their country. The rest of the world views them the same....

Pure Socialism----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pure Totalitarianism

^ ^
| |
| Conservatism
Liberalism
​

:sunshine:

I'm more interested in libertarianism with a good dose of naturalism (i.e., there is no such thing as altruism in nature.)

 

[Ramsey]

yall are making my head hurt :wierd:

 

[ECKSJAY]

I'm more interested in libertarianism with a good dose of naturalism (i.e., there is no such thing as altruism in nature.)

:kissyou:

 

[Beej]

I'm more interested in libertarianism with a good dose of naturalism (i.e., there is no such thing as altruism in nature.)

Okay, I like gratuitous confabulatory rhetoric as much as the next person, but there are too many definitions of 'libertarianism', 'naturalism' and 'altruism' to get a context wide enough for a position to emerge...
aperwork

 

[Lupine]

Ok, how bout this. Kill, eat, reproduce. Attack anything that gets in your way.

 

[Lawn Cher']

Ok, how bout this. Kill, eat, reproduce. Attack anything that gets in your way.

Sounds like a fun weekend.

 

[CommandoXJ96]

alright... i got the internet taken away 2 days ago... cuz my mom said "and there will be no more of you reading some Physco-Hick/Redneck Conservative websites!!!"

and now the internets back....
thx for all the advice the experiments to try on my mom and the You-are-a-dumbass-if-you-think-we-value-your-opinion-more-then-ur-mom comments.

what i did is sat in my room... did chores and cleaned my room to see if i could get on her good side... no political discussions....

my dad and i had a talk...then my dad had a talk with her... this morning i woke up to find my phone and keys back... but im still grounded till tuesday.

now as far as me not owning the car... its supposed to have the title put in my name within the next 2 months (whenever my dad figures out how the easiest way to do it without having to buy a new Lic Plate... hes not sure how they've changed the AZ law on that)

we have 3 drivers - 3 cars... becuase my mom wanted a new Jeep - and got a WJ... so i got the 96 xj which hasnt had anything changed/put in it for 3 years (save for the gas) and ive treated her (thexj) very nicely and shes been fixed up and really cleaned. its not like one of you guys said it was... the my mommy went out and saw a pretty Xj and bought it for me thing. she wanted a new car (an 00 wj) and it made sense that i got the xj. She got it from her dad for the same reason anyways. the xj has 115 k on her and shes pretty clean save for a few dents and a coolant leak. My mom has no problem with me offroading or with my dad offroading in it... or even her new WJ... its taht she doesnt want me offroading without my dad to "supervise me".

yeah so what... now the kids bitching about this again?

this is afterall... thought id talk about my XJ a bit...

so yeah... this will be my jeep... i have to wait till im 18 for my Opinion to matter anyways (i can vote then... not now... and yes i probably will move out) and ive been trying to get a job the best i can...and doing some oddjob type stuff. so yeah... i do plan on turning 18...having a jeep...voting...and having a job... and untill then put up with all of this stuff and do my best to respect her. so what if im a stupid 16 year old; "YOU ARE GROUNDED" should not be heard in the middle of a political discussion which turns to my mother hitting me and screaming at the top of her lungs trying to; god knows what; "turn me to her side". if anything that will just deter me from wanting to listen more.

the whole listen to them no matter what... i do my best to but my moms difficult - and i do listen to my dad who respects me for having my own friggin opinion even when it doesnt match his.

 

[87CherokeeChief]

hey man, i feel your pain. Im 16 also and i know how it goes. I just look forward to those days where i do what i want when i want should be pretty good! I must say, sure does feel pretty damn good to be able to vent somewhere and get some good advice huh!


Brett

 

[Darky]

Trust me, its not a matter of doing "what i want when i want" once you move out. Then you got responsibilities and a job that you actually need in order to survive. You can't be too rough with your XJ because you'll need it for work and college (I know you plan on college, right?). You can't stay out and do whatever you want cuz you'll need some sleep so you can wake up for your job/school...But in your case Commando, you will be able to avoid being grounded and hit by your mom for disagreeing. Don't discount me as some old guy trying to tell you what its like pretending I know how you feel...I'm only 22. I moved out at 17, but that was into the Marine Corps. Now I'm married and about to get out. Worrying about what you'll be doing for money to support yourself is a bummer. You've got to really get your stuff together and make sure you're ready to support yourself. And try as hard as you can to avoid coming to Mom and Dad to bail you out when you have money problems...