crazy lady

[TRNDRVR]

Dan...if I wanted and $_it outta you I'd squeeze your ears togehter....AGAIN !

Ouch!!!

 

[stewie]

And to think, I live in Utah!!! :gag:

x2. i feel your pain man. only after coming to utah was i asked routinely what "ward" i belong to. how disturbing. at least now i realize not everyone in this state is LDS.

 

[DrMoab]

x2. i feel your pain man. only after coming to utah was i asked routinely what "ward" i belong to. how disturbing. at least now i realize not everyone in this state is LDS.

It's funny how much influence Mormons have on this country (be it good or bad) My wife...who is LDS moved to Massachusetts when she was 12....She constantly got asked where her horns were and how many wives did her dad have.

Just goes to show that people are naive and stupid no matter where you live.

 

[TRNDRVR]

i asked routinely what "ward" i belong to.

My answer is 'Cleaver'.

 

[ECKSJAY]

My answer is 'Cleaver'.

 

[Gil BullyKatz]

There is only One Love, One God, and One Way. And without God we are no better then worms. Theres some food for thought.

Here's a mouthful of Food for your thoughts...

I hope that when you die...

and you arrive at the afterlife...

There will be Buddists, Muslims, Hindu's, Pagans and Idolaters all waiting to buy peanuts to toss in the exhibit you're placed in...

The arrogance of some people to believe that because they believe in A god...

That everyone else is wrong...

What if YOU are wrong and reincarnate as a sheep in provincial Greece?

Can't you just Fucking believe in your beliefs and let others either believe or not believe in their own ideals?

Ever wonder if you've spent ALL THIS TIME believing in the wrong faith?

The only TRUE GOD is the one in your own heart and mind that determines the difference between right and wrong...

Crusading is for the dark ages...

Leave your sermons at home or find a Jeepers for Christ forum....

In the meantime...

Enjoy your Jesus....

 

[XJ Dreamin']

...

Then on the other side of things...I feel sorry for people who don't believe in anything. I think we were programed to and people who don't are really missing something in their lives.

And there's my opening. Man! That took a long time.

OK. Here's my theory. Humans have the ability to think abstractly. One of the more important aspects of this is the ability to think up events that have not happened and tag them as "future." We all can understand about "past" tags on memories and "present" tags on stuff happening right now. Sometimes, stuff happening right now gets incorrectly tagged as "past" and you get that feeling that this has all happened before - deja vue. Well, we have the ability to think of events that have not happened and we tag those as "future."

What use is that? Well, human interaction is different than the interactions between the members of other animal species. While memebers of many of the other species share (e.g., parent to offspring, mate to mate, etc.), humans engage in an additional type of exchange. For the purposes of this discussion, I call it reciprocity. I add this definition to the word. Reciprocity, in this context, is the giving of a good, service, or favor now, in aticipation that it will be reciprocated at a later time. This allows for the distribution of resources from surplus to need, and creates a bond between the parties involved that extends beyond the present.

So what? Well, what's the use of thinking about the future unless you have the ability to believe in something that you have not yet experienced. "Blessed are they who have not seen, and yet believe" (somebody else fill in the citation: any one of the four gospels). Reciprocity is irrelavant without the ability to believe. I'm not going to give you anything if I can't believe that something will come back to me sometime in the future. A synonym for this ability to believe is "faith."

Participation in this process carries a positive selective pressure for the abilities required to participate in reciprocity with other individuals. The selective pressure centers on the redistribution of resources to those in need, increasing fecundity for the group as a whole. Faith (in this biological sense) is a hardwired, inherited, genetically coded behavior: an instinct. One of very few instinct that humans possess that is unique to humans. The selective pressure for faith has been so strong that faith is actually a psychological need. Everyone will try to place their faith in something: in themselves, or their family, or even (a mistake common to many scientists) in their theories. Regardless, faith is a psychological element of every human: inherited after 10's of thousands of years of selection toward a special form of sharing (later I can get into what civilization has done to screw up this system).

Now, imagine some hunter/gatherer ancestors. Not reacting to their environment solely through instinct, but remembering the past and applying it to the future. They know that in one cycle of the moon some nuts will come into season in the next valley over. Not reacting instinctively to changing seasons, but remembering and reasoning. One says, "hey. We need to get over to the next valley by the next cycle of the moon." Somebody else, in an idle moment says, "I wonder what makes that happen." They all stop and look at each other. "Holy crap," they think. "If there is someone making these things happen, we need to make him/her/it/them part of our group." How do they do that? By engaging in a reciprocal exchange. They sarifice goods, sweat, time to these powers in the present, on faith that they will receive like in kind at some later date.

Thus, their relationship with the force they perceive to be controlling their world is the same as their relationship with each other. How can it be anything else: after all - they are only human. Depending on the Christian denomination, Faith (with a capitol 'F') is earned or bestowed. But, on a personal, psychological, biological level faith (small 'f') is a psychological force in each and everyone of us. A failure to find a secure place in which to anchor ones faith leads to anxiety and other psychological stresses. To relieve these stresses, the individual will be compelled to find an anchorage. Many a charlitan has taken advantage of these people (aka Guiana and Wako and many, many, many others).

I don't begrudge anyone the need to place their faith somewhere, knowing that they have to put it somewhere.

There it is in a nutshell. Did that answer everybodies questions :laugh3:

Take care. I'll see y'all later.

...

That being said...The most evil thing someone can do is to try and force other people to see there way about it. Even in the Bible it states that God gave us free will....If he really wanted us to all believe the same thing he wouldn't have made it so easy for us not to.

You're not required to believe any of this crap. It's just a little theory I've been working on. eace:

 

[Gil BullyKatz]

Oh...

and BTW...

If you truly believe in God...

You cannot deny the existence and the right to worship and honor his counterpart...

 

[DrMoab]

If you truly believe in God...

You cannot deny the existence and the right to worship and honor his counterpart...

Really? I dunno. I mean if you are talking about a God created by Religion maybe but I don't know if just believing in a "higher power" means that there has to be a Ying for that Yang.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

Here's a mouthful of Food for your thoughts...

I hope that when you die...

and you arrive at the afterlife...

There will be Buddists, Muslims, Hindu's, Pagans and Idolaters all waiting to buy peanuts to toss in the exhibit you're placed in...

The arrogance of some people to believe that because they believe in A god...

That everyone else is wrong...

What if YOU are wrong and reincarnate as a sheep in provincial Greece?

Can't you just Fucking believe in your beliefs and let others either believe or not believe in their own ideals?

Ever wonder if you've spent ALL THIS TIME believing in the wrong faith?

The only TRUE GOD is the one in your own heart and mind that determines the difference between right and wrong...

Crusading is for the dark ages...

Leave your sermons at home or find a Jeepers for Christ forum....

In the meantime...

Enjoy your Jesus....

A short parable:
A righteous man went to heaven. When he got there he saw a bunch of people that he thought ought to be in hell. He hunted down God and said, "Hey! What are these people doing here? I though you said they were going to Hell!"

God smiled. "Yes. But, I love them so much I just couldn't do that to them."

Bye. Gotta go.

 

[DrMoab]

Bye. Gotta go.

You already said that.....Where you going?

 

[crookedletterd]

I drive through the areas I like to wheel in and look around and to me...it just seems crazy to think that somehow it wasn't created by a higher power who has a plan for things.

It's called plate tectonics.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

You already said that.....Where you going?

If I said home I'd be incriminating myself :laugh3:

I'll see you later tonight.

 

[DrMoab]

It's called plate tectonics.

Trust me....I believe in science and evolution. But I have a very very hard time looking at the Universe and NOT seeing it created with a masters paint brush.

Too many things in this world work too perfectly for it to be "just scientific"

 

[crookedletterd]

I have a very very hard time looking at the Universe and NOT seeing it created with a masters paint brush.

Too many things in this world work too perfectly for it to be "just scientific"

Yeah, I know what you mean--just the fact that there is no "real" answer makes it more fun to talk about.... i personally think there are probably many other "planet earths" out there

but then again, its not worth the mindache to me. I'm just living and enjoying life. :laugh3:

 

[Gil BullyKatz]

Top Ten Reasons Why Beer Is Better Than Religion


If you have a beer, you don't go around door to door trying to give it to someone else.

You can prove that you have a beer.

It is against the law to offer beer to little children who are not old enough to think for themselves.

Nobody has ever been hanged, tortured, or burned at the stake over his particular brand of beer.

If you have a beer, you don't have to wait over 2000 years for another one.

There are many federal laws that make them print the truth on beer labels.

No one will kill you for not drinking beer.

Beer does not tell you when or how to have sex.

There have been virtually no major wars fought over beer.

If you have devoted your entire life to beer, there are groups you can join to help you stop!


p.s. Jesus has a message for you:

The teachings of Jesus

 

[seanR]

Beer does not tell you when or how to have sex.

No, but it can play a major role in WHO you have sex with!

 

[crookedletterd]

Top Ten Reasons Why Beer Is Better Than Religion


If you have a beer, you don't go around door to door trying to give it to someone else.

You can prove that you have a beer.

It is against the law to offer beer to little children who are not old enough to think for themselves.

Nobody has ever been hanged, tortured, or burned at the stake over his particular brand of beer.

If you have a beer, you don't have to wait over 2000 years for another one.

There are many federal laws that make them print the truth on beer labels.

No one will kill you for not drinking beer.

Beer does not tell you when or how to have sex.

There have been virtually no major wars fought over beer.

If you have devoted your entire life to beer, there are groups you can join to help you stop!

exactly! :cheers:

 

[TRNDRVR]

Nobody has ever been hanged, tortured, or burned at the stake over his particular brand of beer.

My advise to you is you better not come around my house with a Cuuurs..... :hang:

 

[TRNDRVR]

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