crazy lady

Pogiboy said:
I am sorry you feel that way. It hurts me everytime someone says things like this. Because I know the truth, and sometimes its hard for me to understand why people dont want the truth? There is only One Love, One God, and One Way.


And without God we are no better then worms. Theres some food for thought.

Religion was created as a means of controlling people. The presence of a 'god' was a way to explain the unexplainable.

Religion sure is a fascinating theory, but it's grossly outdated.
 
HAHAHA Explain the unexplainable then! Tell me why I am wrong! I want real answers! Not just cause I said so! oh and here is a thought. if we came from the big bang, where did the big bang come from? And where did the thing that created the big bang come from? And where did the thing that created the thing that created the big bang come form? etc, etc, etc?
 
Pogiboy said:
HAHAHA Explain the unexplainable then! Tell me why I am wrong! I want real answers! Not just cause I said so! oh and here is a thought. if we came from the big bang, where did the big bang come from? And where did the thing that created the big bang come from? And where did the thing that created the thing that created the big bang come form? etc, etc, etc?

You mention theories as well. Theories are not proven right, they're proven wrong. Religion is a theory, as is evolution and the 'big bang'. I never said you were wrong, I merely stated facts. Take that however you interpret it. I personally have better things to do with my time than sit and fascinate about what may or may not happen to me when I die. I'm a reactionary person for the most part. I'll worry about it when it comes up.
 
Your right, you never said I was worng. Sorry for the mis read. And theorys are proven wrong, but truths arent. And I dont sit around and think about what will happen to me when I die, because I know! And it is so exciting and FREAKIN awesome to know i never have to worry about anything! Because I am taken care of. And if you wait until death come up for you to deal with it wont it be to late to do so? We spend 100 years max on this earth. Imagine how small that is in comparison to eternity! I personally want to make everything good for the long hall, not spend time and effort on the present. Because nothing on this earth will last, not your xj, not your family, not your job. Only God will last forever!
 
That Jesus is the Son of God and he came to earth to save us of our sins, Because we are ALL sinners. God loves us, everyone, no matter what we have done. And that every person can be saved through Christ if they just believe. I can go on and on, what truths do you want to know about? Find something in the Bible that has been PROVEN false or wrong. One thing is all I ask. Not something that is an opinion or something that hasnt happend yet, like the return of Christ, just something that has to this day, been proven wrong.
 
TRNDRVR said:
Oh I saw the video. That woman is a FAWKING zealot.
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I'm glad I don't believe in god!!!


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TRNDRVR said:
Do they ever???

YES

But then you would have to understand how they are supposed to act; not how you think they should act.
 
Pogiboy said:
There is only One Love, One God, and One Way.

So what about the billions of people that have lived and died by a different religion, a large chunk I'm sure never hearing about Christianity? Are they f'd?
 
I'm not religious, I'm a Christian.
Lumping all Christians together would be like lumping all 4 wheelers together. :laugh3:

Faith is not something you can convince someone of. Someway, somehow a person needs to come to it on thier own. I rejected God for a long time before I came to know Him.

People make mistakes daily, I'm one of them. How many times have you looked back at a situation and said damn, I should have handled that differently?

For you folks that don't know Him or believe in Him, there are a lot of people in this country praying for you and I'm one of them.

There is scripture that says basically, you'll be judged on what you know or didn't know. The folks that didn't know God, I don't believe, are f'd.

:wave:
 
WesternXJ said:
For you folks that don't know Him or believe in Him, there are a lot of people in this country praying for you and I'm one of them.
If we keep this post civilized, it'll stay awhile!!!

So with that being said, why do you feel so compelled to "pray for me" just because I don't believe in god? Do you think that non-believers are bad people?
Do you blatantly throw away everything that I have worked so hard for just because I don't believe? Have you ever wondered if people that don't believe pray for you? (I'll answer that one for you; I don't.)

There's a bumper sticker I've seen that says;

"If you live your life like there's no god,
I hope you're right!!!"

Have you ever looked at that saying and said;

"I live my life like there is a god,
I hope I'm right"

???????

Thanks.
 
Yes I am born again! :yelclap: As for people in other religeons who have never heard about Christ and what he did for us, they know deep down inside that something isnt right. They can surpress that feeling and live thinking they are doing right, but deep down they know they arent doing right. And even though they dont know what is right, they know arent doing right. There have been tribes in africa and the amazon who have been discovered and they beleive in a single creator. No one has ever brought the gosple to them, yet they see the beauty around them and are smart enough to realize that this came from one God who loves them.There is not some magical prayer to become a Christian. While that helps a lot in taking that step of beleiving in God, it is not the key to salvation. To have salvation one needs to beleive in Christ with thier whole heart. Only then is that person born again! I am not perfect and never have been nor ever will be, I am just like everyone else. Except that I know Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I will be praying for you all! This is something that cant wait. Think about it!:)
 
Pogiboy said:
Yes I am born again! :yelclap:
Figures!!! So what was your rock bottom? Drugs? Alcoholic? Ex con?
Pogiboy said:
As for people in other religeons who have never heard about Christ and what he did for us, they know deep down inside that something isnt right. They can surpress that feeling and live thinking they are doing right, but deep down they know they arent doing right. And even though they dont know what is right, they know arent doing right. There have been tribes in africa and the amazon who have been discovered and they beleive in a single creator. No one has ever brought the gosple to them, yet they see the beauty around them and are smart enough to realize that this came from one God who loves them.There is not some magical prayer to become a Christian. While that helps a lot in taking that step of beleiving in God, it is not the key to salvation. To have salvation one needs to beleive in Christ with thier whole heart. Only then is that person born again! I am not perfect and never have been nor ever will be, I am just like everyone else. Except that I know Jesus Christ as my personal savior. I will be praying for you all! This is something that cant wait. Think about it!:)
You can't really be serious can you??? Read what you just wrote and get back to me!!!
 
TRNDRVR said:
If we keep this post civilized, it'll stay awhile!!!

So with that being said, why do you feel so compelled to "pray for me" just because I don't believe in god? Do you think that non-believers are bad people?
Do you blatantly throw away everything that I have worked so hard for just because I don't believe? Have you ever wondered if people that don't believe pray for you? (I'll answer that one for you; I don't.)

There's a bumper sticker I've seen that says;

"If you live your life like there's no god,
I hope you're right!!!"

Have you ever looked at that saying and said;

"I live my life like there is a god,
I hope I'm right"

???????

Thanks.

I feel compeled to pray for you becasue you arent saved, but I also feel compeled to pray for those who are! Everyone needs God in their lives wheather you want Him or not. Non beleivers are very bad people! But you know what? Christains ARE NOT ANY BETTER!! "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23. God does want you to give up everything and follow Him. after all, it belongs to Him anyway! This doesnt mean give everything to your local church and trudge on with nothing. Everything I own, xj included, is Gods first and formost. He blesses me with things to help me share his word and live me life to the fullest for Him. MY mud covered jeep has started many convos with others, those convos become relationships, and those relationships allow me to share with me friedns. And non believers do pray, and God listens. We are all creations of God, but we dont become sons and daughters until we accept Him. As for the bumper sticker, I hope your right for living your life without God. I KNOW I am right. Its something that you cant now know, but when you become a Christian. God reveals Himself to you. And personally I would rather live good life helping others any way I can then living a life this world and partying it up.
 
TRNDRVR said:
If we keep this post civilized, it'll stay awhile!!!

Let's try!

So with that being said, why do you feel so compelled to "pray for me" just because I don't believe in god? Do you think that non-believers are bad people?

I pray for you because I want you to know the love and peace I've found in Jesus. I didn't have that before. It's kinda like finding a new/secret part for XJ, you just want to share it with everyone. No, I don't think non-believers are bad people.

Do you blatantly throw away everything that I have worked so hard for just because I don't believe?

Like what?

Have you ever wondered if people that don't believe pray for you? (I'll answer that one for you; I don't.)

Why would you pray for me to a God you don't believe in? I wouldn't expect you to.

There's a bumper sticker I've seen that says;

"If you live your life like there's no god,
I hope you're right!!!"

Have you ever looked at that saying and said;

"I live my life like there is a god,
I hope I'm right"

I used to live my life that way. Most of the time Christians put stickers on thier vehicles just to make others curious.

???????

Thanks.[/QUOTE]
 
Get back to you how? I stand behind every word.

As for my rock bottom. highschool. I stepped out of the light and got distracted in many ways. Totally ignored God, the whole knowing somethign wasnt right. Everyone has thier own rock bottoms and solid rocks!

Off to work, will check in when I get home.
 
Pogiboy said:
That Jesus is the Son of God and he came to earth to save us of our sins, Because we are ALL sinners. God loves us, everyone, no matter what we have done. And that every person can be saved through Christ if they just believe. I can go on and on, what truths do you want to know about? Find something in the Bible that has been PROVEN false or wrong. One thing is all I ask. Not something that is an opinion or something that hasnt happend yet, like the return of Christ, just something that has to this day, been proven wrong.

Again, please stop making up the meaning here. I asked for 'truths', as in something that is FACTUAL. Everything you mentioned is doctrine of religious THEORY. You stated your BELIEFS, which aren't fact. It may SEEM right to you, but they're not proven fact. Do you not find it odd that the bible is the only historical reference there is? I'm not saying that the bible is fake, I'm saying that the visions and prophecies may very well be grossly exaggerated based on hearsay. How do you honestly expect a collection of documents to remain fully intact after thousands of years?

As for finding something wrong...your stipulations on 'my' findings can go both ways. You're hanging on the faith that an ancient person was seeing straight when they wrote their view on the situation. Two aspects of the bible to look at here: historical and spiritual. There's plenty of accurate history there, but the visions and prophecies are from the point of view of ONE PERSON. Once that story spreads, then oppressed people see hope in it and begin having their own 'experiences'. Strikingly similar, at that. Again, I find the whole religious quagmire fascinating.
 
Pogiboy said:
I feel compeled to pray for you becasue you arent saved
And you've come to this conclusion how???
Pogiboy said:
but I also feel everyone needs God in their lives wheather you want Him or not.
You think so???
Pogiboy said:
Non beleivers are very bad people!
And you've come to this conclusion how???
Pogiboy said:
But you know what? Christains ARE NOT ANY BETTER!!
My point exactly.

Pogiboy said:
Personally I would rather live good life helping others any way I can then living a life this world and partying it up.
And what makes you think I'm not any different than you with this statement? Does it take god to make you this person? It doesn't me! Can you not to it yourself? I can!

Really, what was your rockbottom?
 
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