Boostec Supercharger Information

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The mini kit is Sprintex's gateway for CARB certification. As I understand it, the process is about halfway through the hoop jumping. Again, my understanding, once a company has one product certified, the rest are easier.

It has been quite some time since I lived in Cali so I am out of touch with the current reality. On the other hand, I remember when the CARB was formed. Anyone else remember driving behind a vehicles equipped with "road tube" crankcase breathers? Remember the smoke that used to billow out from under the vehicles? Oil dripping onto the road? As I remember it, CARB was the first to insist on the positive crancase ventilation scheme we all enjoy today.
 
urban yan said:
The better question's will this kit ever see the light of day.
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As stated earlier, there are 10 ready to ship kits.

Find them at http://boostecus.com/

Two have now gone out into the world from here, one to Puerto Rico and the other to Brazil. Not sure how many have moved out of Australia. The US operation just has the Americas (including Canada) for it's territory.

And, nice pot shot Yan...
 
And, BTW, there is a nice photo in the latest JP Magazine of the blower system that they took at the Jeep Easter Safari. Shows it assembled so you can see how little room is actually required.

Quite frankly, the Boostec folks expect that the TJ system will be the prime mover as there are more TJs modded than XJs. It will be less bucks as the stock intake manifold is retained. As a progress report, the Perfect Power Specialist is in Oz as of now gettting the SMT-8L to talk to the 2005 up PCM. Once they are happy, we will see the first production kits (all the castings are done) here to go onto at least two TJs. One is the Shop TJ and the other belongs to a Technician at one of the largest 4WD shops in Southern Colorado.
 
o-gauge-steamer said:
The mini kit is Sprintex's gateway for CARB certification. As I understand it, the process is about halfway through the hoop jumping. Again, my understanding, once a company has one product certified, the rest are easier.

It has been quite some time since I lived in Cali so I am out of touch with the current reality. On the other hand, I remember when the CARB was formed. Anyone else remember driving behind a vehicles equipped with "road tube" crankcase breathers? Remember the smoke that used to billow out from under the vehicles? Oil dripping onto the road? As I remember it, CARB was the first to insist on the positive crancase ventilation scheme we all enjoy today.
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I lived there then. I also remember working at a Datsun dealership and having to install STP smog retro-kits on all the used cars we ran through the shop. What a joke.
 
There are no US installed kits due to the fact that no one has purchased one. Not much I or anyone can do about that. As the Mini kits started slow and are now flying orr the shelf, the same thing, hopefully, will happen with the Jeep kits. It is hoped that the mention of the kit in the latest JP magazine will spark sales. I understand that there have been inquiries, but I do not sell them nor am I involved in any in the financial end. I am merely a Jeep Consultant and occasional Test Driver.

The "issue" with the SMT8-L communicating, is with the 2005 and up ECM. Which I documented. The 2004 and down version works a charm, which I also documented. I have been extremely upfront in this thread addressing the issues discovered and documenting that they were resolved. Under the confidentiality agreement I am operating under, the exact changes made to the codes in the SMT8-L cannot be disclosed.

As to your particular issues, as I explained in response to the PM you sent me... I have no control over what anyone does or does not do.

Have you mentioned how much you are willing to pay?

I can tell you that Engineering time is expensive. I can also inform you that the Eaton SC you have will not tolerate fuel on the rotors. I asked, for your benefit. At $150.00US per hour, it will take exactly 26.65 hours to equal the cost of a new, complete, fully functional, system. I, for one, do not believe that it can be done for that price.

Consider:
You would need to send what parts you have to Boostec. You are responsible for all shipping charges. They would inventory them and let you know if there are any missing pieces. If there are, they will need to be customed machined at your expense.

Then a test vehicle would need to be acquired as I doubt the Sprintex Test Mule will be disturbed for a one-off system development project. The mule is used for demonstration after all...

Then a new SMT8-L (The SMT8-L List price is $480.00... ) would be needed for the project. Just getting the hardware in place will be in the neighborhood of 5 hours. $750.00 gone... Build the, custom, wiring harness, $100.00. Now $1330.00 is gone and no programming has occurred. That leaves 17.76 hours to complete the project. See the problem? It is simple math.

I can't really help you beyond what I have which, admittedly, has not been much beyond "talk to someone who can". I have asked you to stop sniping this thread and you cannot do that either.
 
o-gauge-steamer said:
I can also inform you that the Eaton SC you have will not tolerate fuel on the rotors.
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It's funny you should say that, because I posed that very same concern to Rick. He told me not to worry because it will take allot of miles before my unit sees failure and my Jeep will, most likely, be sold by then.... I'm guessing, so some other sap will inherit my problems. Classy !!!



o-gauge-steamer said:
Have you mentioned how much you are willing to pay?
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The issue isn't how much I'm willing to pay, but rather what I was promised; here's a brief snippet:

11-17-2009 - Rick "I am developing a fuel and ignition package that will have a computer and injector to compliment your unit. A weak point in my earlier endeavors. It is undergoing final testing now. It will be part of my new system coming out soon. It will also retrofit with some simple adaptation to your kit."

08-06-2010 - He has all the pieces with more product coming in 2 weeks. He said he will sell me the piggyback + fuel injector + instructions for under $500 which is close to his cost.

03-15-2011 - Everything's finally resolved. One unit's fully complete and it's installed in his 97. He already drove all the way to CA without issues. He's expecting another complete unit from sprintex soon (2 weeks?). He might possibly sell me the electronics off that one otherwise I'll have to wait until he gets more.

06-15-2011 – Dave accuses me of being "confused"... that somehow my previous conversations with Rick didn't exist.



Look, I wouldn't have a problem if Rick couldn't help me, but I would prefer if he didn't lead me on for nearly 2 years. I would also prefer if he stopped hiding behind others to tell me, man to man, that he's unwilling and/or incapable of helping me. I had another shop willing to build my tune well before my dealings with this guy, but I brushed them off because I trusted Rick was a man of his word. I figured whose better to help me sort out my Rick Rimmer supercharger than Rick Rimmer himself. During the wait, my mechanic, I kid you not, died (old age), and I was forced to scramble to find his son so I could recover my parts... but even afterwards, Rick kept the promises coming. I trusted he would come through... only to have you come along and accuse me of somehow being "confused" about everything.

I can say with great certainty that I'm not confused. My experiences with Rick and you were atrocious; I want people to know what they're getting into when they buy anything from you guys. Grandiose promises that fizzle coupled with apathetic customer support seem standard fair. BTW, I'm sorry, if you think I'm sniping at your thread, but that's what happens when people think they can @#%! with me and get away with it.
 
Talyn,
I hear you. I have heard of Rick's reputation but in this case the SC systems are being built by Sprintex. Rick is a Distributor. If the general census is that having this Distributor is a problem, Sprintex will need to be apprised. It takes nothing away from the quality of the system in question. This system is backed by a multinational company with multimillion assets. A whole entire different animal than anything that has happened in the Jeep community prior to now.

I also understand Urban-Yan's frustration. I just can't do anything about it. If a FMU was shipped to him with the existing programming, it would not function correctly and he would be totally ticked, again. This is why, from an Engineering standpoint, it would need to be custom developed.

It is a no-win situation.

He can get the Perfect Power SMT8-L in Canada from:
http://: www.atelierhp.com Or: http://www.millerperformancecars.com

In any case, it will need programming which must be done with the blower installed.
 
Where are we now with this unit? I want one!!
 
Not sure you do. If you look at the Sprintex Web Site, you will see that the compressor used in the kit is not recommended for a 4 litre engine as it is a tad on the small size being .94L/rev. My plan is to replace the compressor with a Whiple. Either the W100 or better still the W140 as that compressor would give me room to build a stroker later on. I you just need to slow the W140 down. That has upsides. As the compressor is turning slower, it develops less heat at the discharge port.

My current projects include 3 Rovers (a D90 and 2 Discovery 2s) and a 5.9 ZJ. At this point in time I am no longer, in any way, involved with Boostec or it's owner or it's employees. I stay in touch with Sprintex as I was the first (to their knowledge) to use an AEM F/IC with their compressor. It makes 6lbs of boost here at 6,500' and should make possibly 8 at sea level.

The rovers are being stroked out from 3.9 to 5.0 and Supercharged. I expect around 475-500hp out of them. The stroker kits are out of England and have a claimed 350hp output using a 10.1 CR. I will be using the 8.1 pistons instead to leave room for the compressor to work. Interestingly, the company has a forced induction cam available as well. Less overlap. In my opinion, which is evidently not worth very much, it is one or the other. High CR or Boost. It can be argued all day but, if you want the engine to last...
 
What are you using for the block on the Rover builds?

I've heard so much misinformation and utter BS about slipped liners and porosity with these engines I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
 
Thanks, Sure the SC is on the small size but in a low reving 4.0L rarely exceeding 5000rpm and mostly needing low rpm boost it is probably adequate. I'm OK with that.
I am very interested in the intake manifold, SC, bypass valve and brackets. I am less worried about the electronics and fueling needs, I can address/fix that. I just want and need the hardware peices.

Do you know if any of the parts are available?
 
Yesterday I emailed Sprintec and they wrote back;

Hi Martin,
Thank you for your enquiry.
Our Jeep kits are in the final stages of development. They will be on the market soon.
Our US dealer is Boostec US. www.boostecus.com They will be able to supply the systems and answer any questions you have.
Regards

Mark Ambrosius
Sales Coordinator
 
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