bjoehandley
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- WeGo, Chi-Town, Ill
Wow, are you going to bother with a hood now?
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5.3L Vortec V8 Conversion
- Thread starter Frank Z
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larsen
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Washington
The suspense is killin me .. kinda. Any "results" yet?
Super mud
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Bel Air Maryland
Did you ever have any issues with the stock power steering pulley hitting the steering box with the novak engine mounts?
Frank Z
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado Springs
Never used the stock pulley.
I installed a a pulley from a Ford E150.
I installed a a pulley from a Ford E150.
Frank Z
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- Location
- Colorado Springs
Not exactly sure what happened, but my tranny gave up the ghost yesterday while running Liberty (Penrose, Co.). Made it home about 40 or so miles in Limp Mode. No movement in reverse until I get the RPM's up to about 2000k.
So after the Bronco's game today I'll start getting the heep prepped for surgery.
Looks like we're all going to learn how to rebuild a tranny.......wOOT!:rattle:
So after the Bronco's game today I'll start getting the heep prepped for surgery.
Looks like we're all going to learn how to rebuild a tranny.......wOOT!:rattle:
John D
NAXJA Member # 788
- Location
- Rockford, Mi
That sucks. The rebuild isn't that bad, take your time and keep it very clean. Dirt is not your friend here. It's a good time for a few upgrades inside it too.
Frank Z
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- Location
- Colorado Springs
The really frustrating thing is that the tranny only has about 5-6k miles on it. The guts were beefed up last time around and I'm at a loss as to why it's crapped out already.
I'm going to have to get it apart and see what it looks like before ordering any parts for it. I really don't want to invest in a $500-$600 kit if it only needs $10 worth of o-rings or some seals.
I'm going to have to get it apart and see what it looks like before ordering any parts for it. I really don't want to invest in a $500-$600 kit if it only needs $10 worth of o-rings or some seals.
Vanimal
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- Location
- escondido, ca
didnt read the whole thread, but 4l60e i assume?
i rebuilt the 700r4 in my van maybe 2 years ago, very similar tranny. first one i ever did.
your clutches and steels will be burnt if it was slipping at all. it happens extremely quick, so they're probably all shot. the bands could be toast too, as could the drums. check the drums with a straight edge to make sure they arent dished where the band rides.
low and reverse use the same band/drum, so it could be something there, or it could be a loss of pump pressure since those 2 typically require the most to stay in gear. revving it up increases pump pressure so that sort of makes sense.
as far as rebuilding it yourself, you're going to need lots of CLEAN space. there are a lot of parts to lay out and it's best to keep stuff in order. put some plastic down on your work benches, and buy LOTS of brake parts cleaner. i also got a few black plastic drip pans to clean parts in. get the blue shop paper towels and a big bag of rags. buy the 700r4/4l60e rebuild book from autozone, it helps a ton. it's a hayes manual. there are several seals in the trans that are a PITA to get in. if you roll the lip on the seal or slice it durring install, you're back to square 1. the book will show you what i'm talking about, and it will give you the part number for the seal tool. it almost looks like an oversized piston ring compressor if i remember right. you may consider buying it. keep a cup of trans fluid around for coating seals and steels/frictions during assembly. enjoy the tranny fluid you'll be finding everywhere for months after. it's a big messy job.
the only thing i screwed up on was installing the boost and tc lockup valves. they push into a deep hole in the front pump, and there is a snap ring that holds them in. there was a step in the deep hole that led me to believe the snap ring was seated, but the actual groove was up farther, so it had no pressure and the tc wouldnt lock. easy fix, but i had to figure it out then drop the pan again.
i rebuilt the 700r4 in my van maybe 2 years ago, very similar tranny. first one i ever did.
your clutches and steels will be burnt if it was slipping at all. it happens extremely quick, so they're probably all shot. the bands could be toast too, as could the drums. check the drums with a straight edge to make sure they arent dished where the band rides.
low and reverse use the same band/drum, so it could be something there, or it could be a loss of pump pressure since those 2 typically require the most to stay in gear. revving it up increases pump pressure so that sort of makes sense.
as far as rebuilding it yourself, you're going to need lots of CLEAN space. there are a lot of parts to lay out and it's best to keep stuff in order. put some plastic down on your work benches, and buy LOTS of brake parts cleaner. i also got a few black plastic drip pans to clean parts in. get the blue shop paper towels and a big bag of rags. buy the 700r4/4l60e rebuild book from autozone, it helps a ton. it's a hayes manual. there are several seals in the trans that are a PITA to get in. if you roll the lip on the seal or slice it durring install, you're back to square 1. the book will show you what i'm talking about, and it will give you the part number for the seal tool. it almost looks like an oversized piston ring compressor if i remember right. you may consider buying it. keep a cup of trans fluid around for coating seals and steels/frictions during assembly. enjoy the tranny fluid you'll be finding everywhere for months after. it's a big messy job.
the only thing i screwed up on was installing the boost and tc lockup valves. they push into a deep hole in the front pump, and there is a snap ring that holds them in. there was a step in the deep hole that led me to believe the snap ring was seated, but the actual groove was up farther, so it had no pressure and the tc wouldnt lock. easy fix, but i had to figure it out then drop the pan again.
Frank Z
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- Location
- Colorado Springs
I helped out on the initial rebuild (maybe that's the problem :jester
and also got elbows deep into the 4EOD rebuild for my service van. Not a complete stranger to it...but a heck of a long way from being an expert.
We live, we learn.
Should be another fun ride!!
and also got elbows deep into the 4EOD rebuild for my service van. Not a complete stranger to it...but a heck of a long way from being an expert.We live, we learn.
Should be another fun ride!!
Vanimal
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- Location
- escondido, ca
ah, well you're miles ahead of where i was then. i was a virgin when i rebuilt mine. post pics, i'd like to remind myself why i'm going to pay someone to rebuild it next time.
here's a web forum i frequented when rebuilding mine. good for troubleshooting help. the guy who runs it sells the parts too, i got everything through him. he'll help you a lot over the phone too, he'll tell you what parts to check for wear/damage, etc.
http://www.700r4l60e.com/
here's a web forum i frequented when rebuilding mine. good for troubleshooting help. the guy who runs it sells the parts too, i got everything through him. he'll help you a lot over the phone too, he'll tell you what parts to check for wear/damage, etc.
http://www.700r4l60e.com/
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xj-grin
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- Colorado Springs, Colorado
I helped out on the initial rebuild (maybe that's the problem :jester
We live, we learn.
Should be another fun ride!!
too bad your attitude suck so much, Frank.
Frank Z
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- Location
- Colorado Springs
Siiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhh...
Dropped the pan an found mildly burnt fluid, lots of metal in the fluid, and some hunks-o-metal and Jimmy Hoffa's left testicle.
Shit. Was hoping for a bad #A Solenoid.
No such luck. So I'm heading out to start the removal process.
No new thread since the 4l60E is not a common Jeep tranny.
Dropped the pan an found mildly burnt fluid, lots of metal in the fluid, and some hunks-o-metal and Jimmy Hoffa's left testicle.
Shit. Was hoping for a bad #A Solenoid.
No such luck. So I'm heading out to start the removal process.
No new thread since the 4l60E is not a common Jeep tranny.
xj-grin
NAXJA Member #1096
- Location
- Colorado Springs, Colorado
wait, what happened to the REST of Hoffa? :dunno:
Frank Z
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado Springs
Parted out I suppose.....
Vanimal
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- escondido, ca
wonder if it's the sprag.
John D
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- Rockford, Mi
Where are you going to put the new thread?
XJLI
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Long Island, NY
Damn that sucks. Wonder if the AW4 would have fared better. What's the plan? Rebuild? 4l65e? 4l80e?
Frank Z
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Colorado Springs
I'm leanin toward a sungear.
Not really sure if I'll do a dedicated thread.
I'm old and grumpy as of this past June....and I don't play well with others.
No adapters for an AW4 to 5.3...and although it's a good tranny for the XJ, it wouldn'd last too long behind a 5.3L....but that's another thread to be written by someone other than me.
4l80 is simply too large to fit easily in an XJ. New tunnel and firewall mods are not in my future.
I'll know more in a day or two when the tranny is out and stripped down like a 2-bit hooker.
yossarian19
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- Grass Valley, CA
You can get hookers for 2 bits in Colorado? Awesome!
