$11 Bastard Leaf Pack Writeup. *Tons of pics*

Help a noob!

I have been gathering parts for a lift since I noticed my left rear springs going flat. Yesterday I noticed they started inverting. Am I going to need to get a new main spring, or can I mate the S10 leaves be mated up without a problem? I just bought it, so I don't know it's history as far as loads or towing it's been subjected to. Thanks.
 
Re: Help a noob!

XJ Jammer said:
I have been gathering parts for a lift since I noticed my left rear springs going flat. Yesterday I noticed they started inverting. Am I going to need to get a new main spring, or can I mate the S10 leaves be mated up without a problem? I just bought it, so I don't know it's history as far as loads or towing it's been subjected to. Thanks.
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It probably wouldn't hurt to purchase some used stock leaves that still have plenty of arch in 'em.

I am in the same boat, 87 XJ with flat leaves and blocks underneath, and a set of S10 leaves waiting to go in.

However, I dont want to go through the headache with removing the bushing bolts just yet. So I guess it just depends on how much time/work you want to put into it.
 
This post is great!!! So can I go 3" lift with out having to change the trackbar, shafts etc? and with the bastard pack for a 3" lift I use the middle 2 and the overload? What I want to do is get 3" coils, 2wd s-10 pack, and make it work....... This post is great!!! but I have read it and that is my understanding am I right? If I go up to 4.5" and have an SYE on my t-case will I need the t-case drop still? or am I good. Thanks a million!
 
Funrover said:
This post is great!!! So can I go 3" lift with out having to change the trackbar, shafts etc?
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An adjustable track bar is a good idea, but you can re-center your axle by re-drilling the axle side mount. Driveshafts will be fine, of course if you get a SYE, you will need a new rear CV shaft (you may be able to use a stock front shaft).

Funrover said:
and with the bastard pack for a 3" lift I use the middle 2 and the overload? What I want to do is get 3" coils, 2wd s-10 pack, and make it work.......
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Since all used spring packs are a little different, you may have to experiment some to get exactly 3", but that would be a good start. In front you may also need to shim the LCAs to adjust your pinion angle (if you don't get new ones).

Funrover said:
If I go up to 4.5" and have an SYE on my t-case will I need the t-case drop still? or am I good.
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You don't need the drop with a SYE, the drop is simply a band-aid fix for not having a SYE and CV shaft.
 
the drop will take care of it tho. i wouldn't get an SYE unless you wheel really hard at 3 inches.
 
lancey3 said:
the drop will take care of it tho. i wouldn't get an SYE unless you wheel really hard at 3 inches.
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Or get vibes, every XJ is different. The newer ones are more likely to need a SYE, even at 3".
 
true. my 98 with a 1 in drop has no vibes. and its sitten a bit above three inches.
 
Hey guys. I posted a while back in this thread (maybe page 11?) that I had this write up in MS Word format and that I'd email it, but I found that file was too large so I converted it to PDF and can email that with no problems. What would really be great though is if I could email it to someone who could host it online. It's not that I mind sending it out, but unfortunately I had to sell my XJ on Sunday and I won't be logging on very much for several years until I get another one so I won't get the requests that people send me. Any takers?

And for what it's worth, I did this type of lift this summer using the top 2 leaves from a stock XJ pack. It turned out fantastic, much better than I could have ever imagined. My leaves still had arch to them and so did the ones I used, so I'm sure that helped out in the 3 inches that I gained. It rides great, firm, but not harsh at all. It feels very much like my wife's 98 Explorer. My bro-in-law used a Rusty's 3.5" lift and his feels so bouncy, if you hit a bump in the road it feels like you'll just hop on down the road. Mine rides like a truck. Not only that, but because mine is such a beefy pack it doesn't sag at all as opposed to his when loaded down or towing a trailer. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Take care friends.
 
RyanM said:
what haaaappppennd
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I was having some issues keeping my pinion nut on I guess. The pinion fell into my Detroit. :shhh:

I got it all fixed and wheeled the next day too, no worries.


Here's my buddy's Xjuggy i'm working on right now. The rear packs are flipped bastard leafs with a mix of Rusty's 303 packs, waggy packs, and stock XJ packs. One leaf from each for a 3 leaf setup. The front end is sitting on Waggy 7 leaf packs. It's gonna be quite flexy.

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Timmay said:
I was having some issues keeping my pinion nut on I guess. The pinion fell into my Detroit. :shhh:

I got it all fixed and wheeled the next day too, no worries.
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same thing happened to me. Scarred the detroit up a bit, it functioned fine for another year, before the ring gear disintegrated.
 
I have a few pictures from my Dak Pak Install

Since Timmay lost his with a server crash I will post up mine... they are more just pictures that I took... I was not planning on doing a write up but they can help.

Before

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Here are some of the springs


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Big Pix

http://webpages.charter.net/laurajeff44/DakPack/XJ_vs_Dakota_arches.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/laurajeff44/DakPack/XJ_vs_Dakota.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/laurajeff44/DakPack/AxleBackInPlace.jpg



XJ Main
AAL from my lift
Dak second leaf
Dak Over load....

The first attempt was not as tall as I wanted as well as it was very easy to bottom out on the overload. The end result was less than I would have liked.


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After having things not as tall as I wanted I went all in... A.K.A. All XJ, All Dak Pak and the AAL.. .Needless to say it was stiff as a brick and flexed like one. However, ...It did look good...

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After going all in I liked the look and hated the ride. I pulled out the Dak overload and a couple of the stiffer springs for a set of longer springs that was less stiff. At the same time I added a 1.5 inch block. I know that they are not good, but for short lift hieghts I believe they have a small role.


I currently have a 1.5 inch block and a 5 spring pack. It clearly is a truck style of ride, Not Stock but not bad either.

XJ Main
RE AAL
Dak Pak leaf
Dak Pak Leaf
XJ overload


This got me some OK flex and a much better ride.
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Here is the standard ride hieght as it now sits.

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Great thanks for the pics. I'm still waiting for the PDF from 4doors but when I get it i'll be sure to send it out to all those who requested it already.
 
JAS said:
I have a few pictures from my Dak Pak Install

Since Timmay lost his with a server crash I will post up mine... they are more just pictures that I took... I was not planning on doing a write up but they can help.
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Thanks for the pics.
 
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