Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

[sixshooter]

I have been coming to this board for while. I usually do not spend much time looking at boards, but as I am building my XJ, I like to get opinions about ideas thaty I have to see if others have tried and to see if it was successful. Alot of the threads I looked at have a tremendous amount of bashing, or randon people giving their opinion about some completely obscure aspect of the vehicle in question. My example. In a thread about junkyard parts fitting on jeeps, the president of this forum had to clean it up bcause of bashing...he shouldnt have to do that...that is not his job. Another example, I asked about a SYE alternative on my XJ (8" of lift), and someone tells me that I should that instead, I should lower it 5 inches and do trimming. He also then states that I do not understand what I am talking about. I belong to many forums, but do just post to post. I am not the type of person that feels he needs to post to make people believe that I know what I am talking about...I use these as a tool. Bashing takes up so much room on the posts that I get frustrated when looking at a post becasue 1/3 of it is legitimate information, 1/3 of it is bashing or opinions, and 1/3 of it is defending the bashing. Thsi seems to happen especially to Noobes, which are are the last people I would want to bash, they are just attempting to learn something, and they are in the same position we were in when we first came to a forum. There are so many people on this site that are willing to give such good advise that I would hate to not continue to come to it. However, of all the forums that I belong to, this is the ONLY site that has this much bashing/ randon 2 cents thrown in going on. It is a great site that has so many nice people that I am sure I am not the only person that feels this way about the site. Wen a someone posts something that is off topic ina thread, they get told about it....is there not something other than warnings that can go with this problem as well? Thanks to all that give good advice and not their opinions (unless asked for of course).

 

[afd516]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

You are right. There is a lot of bashing and goings on. But you no what don't be so sensitive about it. Fawk um' and go on. If someone gives you an opinion you don't want, who cares.

This is the internet, so yes people are going to be more free speaking than in normal everyday, face to face conversations.

You got to admit, it is sometimes comical. Have fun with it.

Take the info you want and go on. If you don't like this forum you don' have to come to it. It is as simple as that.

With that being said, there is nothing you or I can do about it, but, I do agree with you 100%.

 

[sixshooter]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

You are right. There is a lot of bashing and goings on. But you no what don't be so sensitive about it. Fawk um' and go on. If someone gives you an opinion you don't want, who cares.

This is the internet, so yes people are going to be more free speaking than in normal everyday, face to face conversations.

You got to admit, it is sometimes comical. Have fun with it.

Take the info you want and go on. If you don't like this forum you don' have to come to it. It is as simple as that.

With that being said, there is nothing you or I can do about it, but, I do agree with you 100%.

Thanks...I just needed to vent. I do laugh sometimes, but I am hoping to get good advise form these posts and hate wasting time looking at trash.

 

[rockwerks]

I have been coming to this board for while. I usually do not spend much time looking at boards, but as I am building my XJ, I like to get opinions about ideas thaty I have to see if others have tried and to see if it was successful. Alot of the threads I looked at have a tremendous amount of bashing, or randon people giving their opinion about some completely obscure aspect of the vehicle in question. My example. In a thread about junkyard parts fitting on jeeps, the president of this forum had to clean it up bcause of bashing...he shouldnt have to do that...that is not his job. Another example, I asked about a SYE alternative on my XJ (8" of lift), and someone tells me that I should that instead, I should lower it 5 inches and do trimming. He also then states that I do not understand what I am talking about. I belong to many forums, but do just post to post. I am not the type of person that feels he needs to post to make people believe that I know what I am talking about...I use these as a tool. Bashing takes up so much room on the posts that I get frustrated when looking at a post becasue 1/3 of it is legitimate information, 1/3 of it is bashing or opinions, and 1/3 of it is defending the bashing. Thsi seems to happen especially to Noobes, which are are the last people I would want to bash, they are just attempting to learn something, and they are in the same position we were in when we first came to a forum. There are so many people on this site that are willing to give such good advise that I would hate to not continue to come to it. However, of all the forums that I belong to, this is the ONLY site that has this much bashing/ randon 2 cents thrown in going on. It is a great site that has so many nice people that I am sure I am not the only person that feels this way about the site. Wen a someone posts something that is off topic ina thread, they get told about it....is there not something other than warnings that can go with this problem as well? Thanks to all that give good advice and not their opinions (unless asked for of course).

not to rain on your parade but but this forum has only about 10% of the bashing that other jeep sites has...JU is really bad and if you have any kind of sensitive nerve in your body never go to Pirates bulliten Board.

I also think you are exagerating about the 1/3rd. and if you post asking for opinions why dont you think people are going to give them? Imean when someone starts a thread they are basically asking for opinions and believe me there is never just one way to get the job done.... and most of teh bashing is for not using the search function...it gets a little old for the ol timers here to see the same question posted 5 times in one day, the threads may be worded a little different but still the same ol questions.

Many of the bashes are ment in fun, to do a lil ribbing like I got this morning on this thread

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=67793

If you cant take a little joking around maybe the internet is not the place for you. Wheelers in general tend to be a very vocal group on the net but willing to give you the shirt off their back on the trail if you need it.

So lighten up, take the bashing for whats it is...some stupid comments by non knowing idiots who like to post to see their post count go up and the ribbing to have a little fun. Naxja tends to be a little more advanced in tech than JU so you have to expect when the same question is asked for the 1 billionth time to catch some flack.

and on another note old man is a moderator here also beside a great pres so yeah it is his job to clean up the occasional trash pile.

 

[LBEXJ]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

You guys need to keep in mind that you are dealing with people here. Not everyone is going to be "nice" all the time. It is the same here as it is in any public place. Believe me, there are others forums that make this one look tame.

Moderators try to keep the forum as "clean" as possible. It is a necessary part of any public place ... just have we have Policemen, Bouncers, High School Principles, etc. The President of happens to be one of the moderators.

My advice, think about what you post before hand. Research as best you can so you have done some leg work. You will need that just to be able to digest what information you do get here. And, expect both good and bad responses. The important thing is to not take everything to heart and not let it affect your behavior so you end up being the same way.

Hang in there ...

Les

 

[RTicUL8]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

uh, hello everyone. My name is Craig and I'm an internet basher. :twak:
I like bashing, and I like being bashed.
I often join boards and pose as a newbie to get my daily bashing. :wave:

 

[sixshooter]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

uh, hello everyone. My name is Craig and I'm an internet basher. :twak:
I like bashing, and I like being bashed.
I often join boards and pose as a newbie to get my daily bashing. :wave:

Now that was funny!!!!!!!!!

 

[85xjwoody]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

Your skin must not be thick enough yet. You sure you own a jeep? If so, get working on it to get some thicker skin to take the bashings and opinions you don't care for. Have a nice day. :kissyou:

Kim.

 

[0313]

and most of the bashing is for not using the search function...it gets a little old for the ol timers here to see the same question posted 5 times in one day, so you have to expect when the same question is asked for the 1 billionth time to catch some flack.

Search my friend,,, SEARCH!

 

[sixshooter]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

For the most part...bashing is okay towards me....I was offended at the junkyard post that the moderator of the forum actually had to step in to stop it for the noobes. I personally was surprised that someone told me to NOT lift my jeep higher, it was the first time I ever heard that before. Anyway...yes, I own jeeps, and I was just venting. I have never been to JU, but I am glad to hear that before I went there. One of my favorite parts of this forum is the search button to see if the post was done before. My problem is probably that I make sure my studetns are being nice to each other sooo much that it has become part of my life now.

 

[rockwerks]

For the most part...bashing is okay towards me....I was offended at the junkyard post that the moderator of the forum actually had to step in to stop it for the noobes. I personally was surprised that someone told me to NOT lift my jeep higher, it was the first time I ever heard that before. Anyway...yes, I own jeeps, and I was just venting. I have never been to JU, but I am glad to hear that before I went there. One of my favorite parts of this forum is the search button to see if the post was done before. My problem is probably that I make sure my studetns are being nice to each other sooo much that it has become part of my life now.

Lifting the jeep higher is a safety issue for best performance keep the jeep lift as low as possible and cut them fenders, Im building an 01 now and will be running 35's and 6.5" of lift....if you would have SEARCHED big lifts you would have known..........LOL

 

[Lincoln]

I just accept the fact that not everyone is as nice as me.

 

[rockwerks]

I just accept the fact that not everyone is as nice as me.

Hey Lincoln STFU......go pick potatos will ya...and why where you not at MOAB! didnt have anyone to go sight seeing with!

 

[zfinger]

I see the bashing and crap here, but I'm also building a 240sx at the moment, and rice forums are 1000x worse. Hang out on an import board filled with 16 year olds who know everything for a while, then come back here. I garentee you'll feel loved.

 

[sixshooter]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

Thats one reasson I go tout of turbo dodges...the people were all no it alls, with nothing to back up their talk!

 

[Lincoln]

Hey Lincoln STFU......go pick potatos will ya...and why where you not at MOAB! didnt have anyone to go sight seeing with!

I was told I was STFU exempt because I'm pretty.

My vacation time = <0

Now back on topic. I need an address to mail a box of tissues.

 

[old_man]

Re: Why is it opinion or bashing instead of advice on this forum in so many threads????

Yes we have a lot of loud mouth idiots on this forum, but a lot less than most. We Jeeper's tend to be a quite independent unruly bunch. We are rude and crude, but unlike most, we actually wheel and actually work on our rigs. The worst part is that when we don't get to wheel, we get grouchy. The mid winter meltdown each year is evidence of this.

On the flip side. You will NEVER find a better bunch of guys to have your back when you are on the trail. It never fails to amaze me when someone breaks down, how that part mysteriously materializes from somebody's rig. Around the camp fires have been some of my most memorable times with . I hope you get a chance to go on a trail run with us sometime or at least take in a Chapter meeting. We have doctors, lawyers, plumbers, students, and everything inbetween. The funny thing is, they all look the same on the trail, and pretty much act the same. The funny thing is that the guy with the nicest rig is rarely the guy with the most money. :laugh3:

Its a guy thing and my wife will never understand how guys who like each other can give each other such a hard time. I keep trying to get it through her head that if the guys aren't calling each other an asshat or the like, then they don't like eachother.

Welcome to ....Warts and all.

 

[rockwerks]

Yes we have a lot of loud mouth idiots on this forum, but a lot less than most. We Jeeper's tend to be a quite independent unruly bunch. We are rude and crude, but unlike most, we actually wheel and actually work on our rigs. The worst part is that when we don't get to wheel, we get grouchy. The mid winter meltdown each year is evidence of this.

On the flip side. You will NEVER find a better bunch of guys to have your back when you are on the trail. It never fails to amaze me when someone breaks down, how that part mysteriously materializes from somebody's rig. Around the camp fires have been some of my most memorable times with . I hope you get a chance to go on a trail run with us sometime or at least take in a Chapter meeting. We have doctors, lawyers, plumbers, students, and everything inbetween. The funny thing is, they all look the same on the trail, and pretty much act the same. The funny thing is that the guy with the nicest rig is rarely the guy with the most money. :laugh3:

Its a guy thing and my wife will never understand how guys who like each other can give each other such a hard time. I keep trying to get it through her head that if the guys aren't calling each other an asshat or the like, then they don't like eachother.

Welcome to ....Warts and all.

X2 read 5 posts up......LOL

 

[drifto77]

Yes we have a lot of loud mouth idiots on this forum, but a lot less than most. We Jeeper's tend to be a quite independent unruly bunch. We are rude and crude, but unlike most, we actually wheel and actually work on our rigs. The worst part is that when we don't get to wheel, we get grouchy. The mid winter meltdown each year is evidence of this.

On the flip side. You will NEVER find a better bunch of guys to have your back when you are on the trail. It never fails to amaze me when someone breaks down, how that part mysteriously materializes from somebody's rig. Around the camp fires have been some of my most memorable times with . I hope you get a chance to go on a trail run with us sometime or at least take in a Chapter meeting. We have doctors, lawyers, plumbers, students, and everything inbetween. The funny thing is, they all look the same on the trail, and pretty much act the same. The funny thing is that the guy with the nicest rig is rarely the guy with the most money. :laugh3:

Its a guy thing and my wife will never understand how guys who like each other can give each other such a hard time. I keep trying to get it through her head that if the guys aren't calling each other an asshat or the like, then they don't like eachother.

Welcome to ....Warts and all.

 

[rockwerks]

Hey drifto77 you got a little brown soot on your nose right there.............