why do some ppl beat their rigs so much?

xtrememtbiker85

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Manchester, NH
i was just wondering about this for a while. i know that trail accidents occur and our vehicles get bumps and bruises but it seems like some people just dont give a shit and beat the hell out of their rigs for fun. i am on my 3rd xj and every one was treated as good as it could be. started with my dads 87 pioner in 91 then my 94 country in 02 and my 95 sport in april 05. dont get me wrong i wheel my jeep and have done alot fo mods but i can still take my g/f to prom in it. i have never been to moab or any extreme trails but i have wheeled pretty challenging trials locally. i know that if i damaged my rig i would fix it but i try to avoid damage in the first place. i just see it as we all put alot of hard work and time and a ton of money in to our rigs, why not take a little better care of them.

i know the next thing someone will say is that they are a dime a dozen and you can just swap out the parts to a new one. well i have noticed that xj;s are starting to become a little more scarce in some areas especially an 80's xj that is actually running good. i understand some ppl want extreme rock crawlers and some ppl live to cut it up but some are just so torn up that it is not even an xj any more. i tend to think those have gone too far and are not not that nice at all. a little more like abuse or something.

i think that the xj;s we spend so much on should be taken care of and appreciated for how good they can look heavily modified but at the same time they can still look good enough and be nice enough to take your girl friend out on a date with or nice nice enough that oyu would not complain about taking a long trip in the xj. btu rugged enough to prove itself on the trail, no mall crawlers.

i am not trying to bash any ones rigs or likes i am just trying to understand why more ppl cannot have a very capeable rig with history behind it and still have it look truck show quality. maybe some day an xj will be an antique that will be worth alot stock or modified like the old military jeeps. i dunno how this will turn out but i have just been curious.
 
I have never had as much fun in my XJ as I have had the last two years after it go beat up enough that I didn't care anymore.

Maybe in your area they are getting scarce but not here....There are more older cherokees running around then just about any other 4X4 vehicle.
 
Funny...I've always wondered why people would sink tons of money into a capable trail rig and then drive it only to the mall and the prom.

If it ain't beat down, you ain't wheelin it hard enough.

Rick
 
not easy to keep your rig "show truck quality" when you wheel it. its not like these are antique ferraris......i paid 1700 bucks for my cherokee and im getting close to triple that amount in parts alone. if/when this one is finally toast, buy another one, swap parts over, keep goin. :wave:
 
Different people use their vewhicles for different things.
A lot of the real beat up rigs you see are not daily drivers. If i want to take a date out, it won't be in the cherokee; girls don't enjoy sliding down out of the truck and picking up mud from the door sill all over the back of their white pants. I have other vehicles more appropriate for this task.

I personally do not understand people who pay a body shop to repair trail damage to a jeep that will most likely return to the same trail where the damage occurred in the future, but to each his own.

Four wheeling is all about testing the capability of the vehicle you have built yourself. In finding the limits of these capabilities sometimes we exceed these capabilities, and damage happens, It's just a part of the sport.

For me it started with a dented quarter panel here, a couple of caved in doors there, and eventually you find yourself running with no windshield, 30% of the front fenders remaining, and happy as long as the vehicle can still be towed home at the end of a weekend.

If we aren't prepared to accept the inherent risk of damage, then we wouldnt put ourselves in a position where it was possible.
 
DrMoab said:
I have never had as much fun in my XJ as I have had the last two years after it go beat up enough that I didn't care anymore.
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Rick XTRM XJ said:
Funny...I've always wondered why people would sink tons of money into a capable trail rig and then drive it only to the mall and the prom.
Again
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Although, if I would take Lar to the prom in mine, if they would let middle age fat guys go!
I love my POS!
I take care of the mechanicals, engine, trans, drive line, etc.
The rest is sheet metal (and some glass).
The first dent hurts, after that, who gives a flying F!
 
Because they can. It's their rig, time, effort and money.
Why worry about how others treat their own junk?

I don't see many, if any, xjs that are wheeled and still show quality.
We must have different ideas of what constitutes "wheeling" or "show quality."
 
sean nailed it, the first few hurt, especially the first big one. after that though it just doesnt matter so much. mines a dd and as long as the roof is still intact thats all that matters.
 
I don't do any damage to my rig, its all the trees and rocks that get in the way that do the dammage.
 
Well this turned out exactly how I thought it would. I guess I must be doing something wrong thinking that a rugged trail rig cannot look good w/o being a mall crawler.

I never said take it to a body shop and spend alot of money. Fix it your self. Except for the rear 1/4 pannels and a few other areas many parts are dirt cheap to replace. I just thought that some other people might be proud of their vehicle enough to keep it looking good in between trail rides. Stupid me, doh!

And btw my girl friend has a tj with 35's so she did not mind it when we took my xj to prom. She did not want a limo any way.

I wheel my xj and about a week after wheeling it I clean it and sometimes i wax it. Just cause its clean does not mean it aint wheeled or its a mall crawler. Its pretty cool when your buddys pick on you at school b/c its clean and then you take it wheeling in between classes and show them up when they get their yota stuck.

Take it for what you will, i was merely making an observation and asking a question.
 
xtrememtbiker85 said:
I never said take it to a body shop and spend alot of money. Fix it your self. Except for the rear 1/4 pannels and a few other areas many parts are dirt cheap to replace. I just thought that some other people might be proud of their vehicle enough to keep it looking good in between trail rides. Stupid me, doh!

why spend money to fix something that's just going to get smashed again?

not everyone considers their XJ a form of transportation, to some it is just a toy. in between trail rides, mine sits in a garage....who's going to see it besides me?

....and I am proud of my damage :wave:
 
I for one...and I think I can speak for others too...was not really knocking you if you want to keep your rig looking nice. I wheel with a couple of guys who have very very nice rigs and they like to keep them that way....That is fine, to each their own.
But those guys I guarantee do not have as much fun as I do. I watch them on the harder trails (the ones they dare follow me on) and they spend more time worrying about how to get around stuff that might damage something then they do wheeling. To me that just isn't fun.

Do you have a problem with people who want to have fun in their rigs as opposed to babying them everywhere they go?
xtrememtbiker85 said:
Well this turned out exactly how I thought it would. I guess I must be doing something wrong thinking that a rugged trail rig cannot look good w/o being a mall crawler.

I never said take it to a body shop and spend alot of money. Fix it your self. Except for the rear 1/4 pannels and a few other areas many parts are dirt cheap to replace. I just thought that some other people might be proud of their vehicle enough to keep it looking good in between trail rides. Stupid me, doh!

And btw my girl friend has a tj with 35's so she did not mind it when we took my xj to prom. She did not want a limo any way.

I wheel my xj and about a week after wheeling it I clean it and sometimes i wax it. Just cause its clean does not mean it aint wheeled or its a mall crawler. Its pretty cool when your buddys pick on you at school b/c its clean and then you take it wheeling in between classes and show them up when they get their yota stuck.

Take it for what you will, i was merely making an observation and asking a question.
 
IntrepidXJ said:
why spend money to fix something that's just going to get smashed again?

Or for that matter, why spend time on it? My time is very valuable at this stage in my life.
 
I never said I had a problem with the way people wheel I just asked a qustion. When I wheel i dont worrie about what is getting damaged or scratched. But if I tear off a fender or smash in a window I fix it.
that does not mean babying it b/c if I or other ppl were babying it it prolly would not see a trail in the first place.
 
Lawn Cher' said:
Or for that matter, why spend time on it? My time is very valuable at this stage in my life.
so is that why your xj sat up for 2 years and your mj still isnt wheelable :D
 
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