Who's Going?

[jeepcomj]

Do they have stock jacks?

The required jack needs to be able to get the tire off the ground on a flat surface.

So....looks like they need a strap each.

Hey....it is a public park, BUT we would much rather have you run with us.

Give it some thought....not trying to piss in your Cheerios.

Rev

gave it some thought...I'm not interested in groups divided by tire size. I like you guys and will be happy to meet you all down there, but I'd like to wheel with the guys I know, who range from 31" to 36" tires, on various jeep axles.

last I checked, the stock jacks are too short even with 31's, and one or two hilifts to a group is more than enough.

the one guy on 33's has a winch, I have 3 brand new straps, and I bring spare parts.

and yeah, I'm bein stubborn and a bit pushy on this...and not everyone packs in like I do, but I know we're all good enough people to lend our first aid kits, fire extinguishers, jacks, and tow straps to a fellow member and/or their guest.

I just don't think someone should be turned away from this event based off of not having one or more of these things. We're wheeling in groups, so this should be covered whether or not one member doesn't have some or all of these items.

-Pat

 

[99SJ_Ex]

Well everyone is entitled to their own opinions...

These are just the requirements set down by the establishment (being the National and MWC BoDs) We've followed these rules thus far, I'm sure we will continue...

To everyone their own I guess.... And all that stuff....

tEx

 

[jeepcomj]

mmk. I disagree, but I don't agree to disagree...I just generally disagree.

 

[HaleYes]

I just don't think someone should be turned away from this event based off of not having one or more of these things.

Noone is being turned away. Everyone has plenty of time to get the required equipment. It's all common sense stuff that everyone should have anyway. That's why I started this thread back in August. There will be a group for everyone that attends WF. The whole point of WF is to fellowship and wheel with guys that you don't normally get to wheel with. Why not split your normal group up and live a little bit? You might learn something new and I can promise you, you will meet some really great people.

Hale

 

[vincepru]

im all for wheelin with new people and im looking forward to making new friends who enjoy the same things as me on this trip. i see the beginning of new beginnings coming up. im very excited for my first winterfest, so is my girlfriend. from what i hear, if she makes it through this, shes a keeper... ill be looking for all you guys' approvals also.

 

[macgyvr]

im very excited for my first winterfest, so is my girlfriend. from what i hear, if she makes it through this, shes a keeper... ill be looking for all you guys' approvals also.

i had only dated my g/f about three months at last year's winterfest...she's still around...and she's still wheelin with me...she might even get to do some driving this year...

mac 'the jury is still out on being a keeper...but she's still around ' gyvr

 

[macgyvr]

gave it some thought...I'm not interested in groups divided by tire size. I like you guys and will be happy to meet you all down there, but I'd like to wheel with the guys I know, who range from 31" to 36" tires, on various jeep axles.

last I checked, the stock jacks are too short even with 31's, and one or two hilifts to a group is more than enough.

the one guy on 33's has a winch, I have 3 brand new straps, and I bring spare parts.

and yeah, I'm bein stubborn and a bit pushy on this...and not everyone packs in like I do, but I know we're all good enough people to lend our first aid kits, fire extinguishers, jacks, and tow straps to a fellow member and/or their guest.

I just don't think someone should be turned away from this event based off of not having one or more of these things. We're wheeling in groups, so this should be covered whether or not one member doesn't have some or all of these items.

-Pat

your stubbornness really really really confuses me...a factory jack will work with a lot of jeep setups and a block of wood is a good help...a fire extinguisher should be in every wheelin rig...not sure why you are a keeper of all things...maybe its the pick up bed..but still, a cheap 10 or 20 fire extinguisher in each rig WILL save time cause sometimes we all aren't RIGHT next to each other...first aid kits are cheap, if you want to be the holder of the one that has everything, thats cool, but your buddies should have the 10 dollar kit in their rigs anyways...and...seriously, if you got three straps, pass them out to your buddies, they can get their own for 20 bucks or less...so were only at 50 bucks...couple cases of beer, or a 1.75 of jack...if that isn't affordable then I dont know what to say...

come and wheel outside of that's find, but seriously the requirements are not out of this world, i think we should require a cb, but we don't...that still can be done inexpensively...

mac 'i spend a least that much a week in booze 'gyvr

 

[vincepru]

for the cb. will two cups and a bit of string work? :roflmao:


but seriously, following up what he was saying. if they cant afford a 20$ tow strap, they probably shouldnt be out busting their rigs... not trying to cause hate, its just common sense that "you gatta pay to play"

thats just what i have learned over the past few years. but take what i say like a grain of salt, im a complete noob in the off road world. but im pretty sure that relates to almost everything that is somewhat fun in life.

 

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

yaaaaawwwwwwnnnn.......this is sounding all too familiar....hasta

 

[macgyvr]

yaaaaawwwwwwnnnn.......this is sounding all too familiar....hasta

were you talking about this:

mac 'i spend a least that much a week in booze 'gyvr

mac 'clearly you related 'gyvr

 

[FlexdXJ]

for the cb. will two cups and a bit of string work? :roflmao:


but seriously, following up what he was saying. if they cant afford a 20$ tow strap, they probably shouldnt be out busting their rigs... not trying to cause hate, its just common sense that "you gatta pay to play"

thats just what i have learned over the past few years. but take what i say like a grain of salt, im a complete noob in the off road world. but im pretty sure that relates to almost everything that is somewhat fun in life.

And driving them from wisconsin! Come on down Tell your buddies to spend 50 bucks on their rigs. Eat, Drink, and be merry with the rest of us!

 

[RedHeep]

mmk. I disagree, but I don't agree to disagree...I just generally disagree.

So do I, with you.

Ditto on Mac's comments. Do you drag these guys everywhere you want to go all the time?

You've got people with you on 31's that would have a blast following Rev around a milder trail instead of struggling on the same trail that your friends on 36's like to ride.

Or you've got a buddy who's on 35's that has to drive over an easy trail because your other guy only has 31's and can't go on the harder trails.

Trust me when I tell you that wheeling with your friends is a good time. You already know that. But wheeling with your ability group can be a GREAT time, because you're on a trail with people of your experience and vehicle ability level.

Don't do a disservice to your friends by being stubborn. Share what you've got and let them go out and enjoy themselves.

My wife and I and my brother and his wife went all over Moab rim with guys from Cali, Colorado, Utah, etc. Didn't know them from a hole in the wall at 8 in the morning and we spent all night at the banquet sitting with them and trading stories like we were old friends :cheers:

It's not always about wheeling, sometimes it's about friends.

 

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

were you talking about this:


mac 'clearly you related 'gyvr

haha! I hear ya Mac, I could have used a few more last night but those corn rows were already hard enough to follow in the combine..the guy that planted that field must have been drunk! Oh, wait, that guy who planted was me

I was actually refering to the topic at hand of not wanting to take part in WF b/c of set rules or things of that nature. Remember a few years back we went through something similar to this?

 

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

It's not always about wheeling, sometimes it's about friends.

yer gawdamn right Josh, could not have said it better.

 

[jeepcomj]

So do I, with you.

Ditto on Mac's comments. Do you drag these guys everywhere you want to go all the time?

You've got people with you on 31's that would have a blast following Rev around a milder trail instead of struggling on the same trail that your friends on 36's like to ride.

Or you've got a buddy who's on 35's that has to drive over an easy trail because your other guy only has 31's and can't go on the harder trails.

Trust me when I tell you that wheeling with your friends is a good time. You already know that. But wheeling with your ability group can be a GREAT time, because you're on a trail with people of your experience and vehicle ability level.

Don't do a disservice to your friends by being stubborn. Share what you've got and let them go out and enjoy themselves.

My wife and I and my brother and his wife went all over Moab rim with guys from Cali, Colorado, Utah, etc. Didn't know them from a hole in the wall at 8 in the morning and we spent all night at the banquet sitting with them and trading stories like we were old friends :cheers:

It's not always about wheeling, sometimes it's about friends.

I have one friend on 31's, and he was fully capable of keeping up with me and 89eliminator on previous badlands runs. I've got no issue running mid-class.

another friend on 33's has a gnarly built cheromanche that's exo'd and on 33x13.50 tsl superswampers...he's full welded rear, and fully capable of doing everything I do (and typically more, being the redneck of the group who's not satisfied til it comes home broke)

and another friend who's never been wheeling per se except for mudding in his stock 87 swb comanche on 31" swampers. he's going to be coming down with the new comanche I'm building for him...it's on 36" superswampers and will have a d30/d44 combo. the tires were too good of a deal to pass and I won't have time for fullsize axles by then.


of those 3 guys who'd be coming, 2 are on naxja though they don't post much. one of those two (the guy on 31's) doesn't really need to have their hand held.

either way, it doesn't much matter to me. I've been to the badlands 3 times, and there's only two trails that I know of that I haven't done...and don't intend to do unless I'm exo'd. IIRC that's the red and pink.

so it doesn't much matter where I run, it's all been done before.

 

[jeepcomj]

yer gawdamn right Josh, could not have said it better.

how about wheeling with your friends?

I like to meet new people, and I like most everyone on the forum...that doesn't mean I want to spend an entire day wheeling with them, when my own friends are already down there with me.

 

[FlexdXJ]

how about wheeling with your friends?

I like to meet new people, and I like most everyone on the forum...that doesn't mean I want to spend an entire day wheeling with them, when my own friends are already down there with me.

Once again, Why don't your friends wheel with us? Are they too good for us?





:roflmao: Sorry, I may be stirring the pot a little!

 

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

how about wheeling with your friends?

I like to meet new people, and I like most everyone on the forum...that doesn't mean I want to spend an entire day wheeling with them, when my own friends are already down there with me.

I wheel with my local friends all the time, so why not wheel with new and old friends and wheelers for one day and kind of break out of the same ol' -same ol' habit?

Sounds like your kind of missing the point of Winterfest IMO.....

 

[FlexdXJ]

I wheel with my local friends all the time, so why not wheel with new and old friends and wheelers for one day and kind of break out of the same ol' -same ol' habit?

Sounds like your kind of missing the point of Winterfest IMO.....

Yeah, Winterfest isn't really about the wheeling thats just a bonus. Getting to see guys, like the Cheeseman, Who you don't see on a regular basis along with the Infamous "WF Campfire" Are what its really about! :cheers:

 

[RedHeep]

I wheel with my local friends all the time, so why not wheel with new and old friends and wheelers for one day and kind of break out of the same ol' -same ol' habit?

Sounds like your kind of missing the point of Winterfest IMO.....

Exactly.

Winterfest isn't the "let's go wheeling this weekend" event you plan with your buddies. It's an opportunity to get out, meet new folks, do new things and enjoy yourself ONCE A YEAR.

I don't need to stir the pot anymore. If you'd rather wheel with your buddies, don't come. Pick another weekend so you're not clogging up the trails with broken dana 30's.