What are you doing to your rig - the continuing saga
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G.P_XJ
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- Centennial, CO
getting closer....
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
Please QUIT giving REALLY bad advice!! :twak:
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
KRONIK, please do not put equal in your tires, you WILL regret it! Those in the know understand the fact that the steering setup on Jeeps are very sensitive.......... a poor design! They come stock with a steering stabilizer for a reason! Many here have modified their Jeeps and steering will become an issue for those that have. There are many things that can cause DW on a Jeep and poor tire balance IS one of them ( I experienced it first hand ) The list is long and there is no need to put it here! Solving DW issues will take time and patience! My approach has always been to go through EVERY probable cause and eliminate it. At some point you will find the cause. Yes, DW IS frustrating........... to say the least but please do not take poor advice simply because it is given here on an XJ forum. Your DW case could be a combination of issues like poor balance and alignment or alignment and bad joint........ :cheers:
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Ira
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Ira
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
Not familiar with equal but i have had good luck with the airsoft bb balancing method. That being said, on a 35" radial I see no reason not to properly balance the tire using conventional weights and spin balancing.
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
I did the bb method and I can say for fact that some tires react well to it and some do not! I had a set of maxxis mudders that balanced perfect with 12oz of zinc bb's each. The current set of BFG's would not balance for shit( ie DW ) with any ammount of bb's!
xj-grin
NAXJA Member #1096
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- Colorado Springs, Colorado
Welcome home Ira! How long do we get to enjoy your excessive punctuation before big bro sends you to the sand box? 
Seriously, welcome home! :cheers:
Seriously, welcome home! :cheers:
KRONIK
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- CRAWLERADO SPRINGS
thank you for your help everyone!!!!
this is why thiese 3 are next on my list lol
ive done a little bit of research and found some horror stories about equal!! i wont be using it in my tires!
X2!!!!!Welcome home Ira! How long do we get to enjoy your excessive punctuation before big bro sends you to the sand box?
dannanw
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- Colorado Springs
I gotta ask.....equal as in the sugar stuff?
And how much bb's are yall talking about, I have used them in rc's but not "real" tires.
And how much bb's are yall talking about, I have used them in rc's but not "real" tires.
jimgrms
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- Oceanside Ca the beach
gathering parts to move the windshield tank so i won't destroy it when i stuff a wheel , ordering stock jeep steel wheels gonna sell my 17 inch rub icons and falken rocky mts .
DutchVDub
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- Milliken, CO
I'm guessing Equal is basically similar to Dynabeads in this case. A material you put inside of your tires to "self balance" them. Very common in the trucking industry, especially in your steering tires.
When I used airsoft bb's in my 36" Iroks I used half of a 10,000count container in each tire. I'm not sure what size/weight bb they were, it was a 30$ container at walmart of clearish green bb's. I picked them because of the color. I saw great results with it actually. On my 39.5' Iroks I never bothered doing any form of balancing but they actually never really wwobbled on me either. I think the fastest I got my Jeep up to was about 60-65mph. I'm not going to bother doing them on my 42" Iroks either. One of the advantages of trailering the Jeep everywhere.
When I used airsoft bb's in my 36" Iroks I used half of a 10,000count container in each tire. I'm not sure what size/weight bb they were, it was a 30$ container at walmart of clearish green bb's. I picked them because of the color. I saw great results with it actually. On my 39.5' Iroks I never bothered doing any form of balancing but they actually never really wwobbled on me either. I think the fastest I got my Jeep up to was about 60-65mph. I'm not going to bother doing them on my 42" Iroks either. One of the advantages of trailering the Jeep everywhere.
KRONIK
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- CRAWLERADO SPRINGS
new rotors are on along with spindle spacers.
Use copper bb's. I know this is shocking, but there is a decent chance you will end up with moisture IN your tires. If you have plastic bb's or stupid power, its gonna freeze, in chunks.
You think it wobbles now? Imagine with frozen chunks of plastic or powder in there. :gee:
The copper ones have more tendency to break them selves apart if frozen. Also they wont disintegrate after smackin into one another a few thousand times, like plastic ones do.
Go to a store. get one of those $9 lil cans of copper ones. I used one per tire. You cant add TOO much - TECHNICALLY - But you dont want to overload it.
And just to reiterate.....Equal is a joke
You think it wobbles now? Imagine with frozen chunks of plastic or powder in there. :gee:
The copper ones have more tendency to break them selves apart if frozen. Also they wont disintegrate after smackin into one another a few thousand times, like plastic ones do.
Go to a store. get one of those $9 lil cans of copper ones. I used one per tire. You cant add TOO much - TECHNICALLY - But you dont want to overload it.
And just to reiterate.....Equal is a joke
- Location
- Rainy side of Washington
I have had death wobble on a stock MJ. I went from no death wobble ever to horrible death wobble (it broke the pass side motor mount off the engine block... and slid the motor mounts around on the frame horns. I could see the clean shiny metal where the paint had been scraped off by the washers and bolt heads as they slid. they were properly torqued) very suddenly.
What happened? I had a blowout on a steer tire and put my spare on it. The balance on that spare wasn't even that bad. Again, solid as a rock no death wobble right to crap-your-pants loud banging rattling noises and chirping from the tires death wobble. Every time it happened I had to set my mirrors back where they were.
Keifer, that RC looks pretty awesome. I didn't really notice it wasn't a real XJ till I realized there was something up with the focus and the corners looked a little too smooth/large radius compared to the size of the vehicle. That pic with your dog 'standing on the roof' is great :thumbup:
What happened? I had a blowout on a steer tire and put my spare on it. The balance on that spare wasn't even that bad. Again, solid as a rock no death wobble right to crap-your-pants loud banging rattling noises and chirping from the tires death wobble. Every time it happened I had to set my mirrors back where they were.
Keifer, that RC looks pretty awesome. I didn't really notice it wasn't a real XJ till I realized there was something up with the focus and the corners looked a little too smooth/large radius compared to the size of the vehicle. That pic with your dog 'standing on the roof' is great :thumbup:
KRONIK
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- CRAWLERADO SPRINGS
fixed. lol
thanks man. it will look a lot better when it is done.
as far as the death wobble goes.... this is the first time i have experienced it. it scared the shit out of me the first time..... :scared:
now im kinda used to it but i feel like its going to start every time the wheel gets shaky...
i got my new brakes on.
my new Kevlar should come in the next couple days so my tires will go in for re balance.
then its time for alignment.:smoker:
KRONIK
NAXJA Forum User
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- CRAWLERADO SPRINGS
will bb's void my warranty on my tires?
- Location
- Rainy side of Washington
doh! I got the K names confused. I even quoted the right person and then decided to not waste thread space with the quote.
LOL. NO. well. who is warrantying them?
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