Tired of reading "texting" type posts

[XJ Dreamin']

I have to agree with the gist of this thread. Naxja is not the place to be using text typing. I find it easier to ignore people asking for help if they can't even be bothered to type out entire words. It makes me wonder if they are only going to read part of what I am typing.

On the other hand, I have no problems typing LOL in a post, or to someone else in an e-mail. I think it helps those of us with little language structuring ability (like myself) give background to a statement, hopefully avoiding unintended offense. You know what I mean? It kind of tells the other person/people that you find something amusing, or that you may not be entirely serious.

Certainly more appealing than explaining everything about what you're motives are in italics after each sentence. As I type this, I am shuddering at the thought.

An acronym for "shuddering at the thought" could be 'SHATT'

FROTFFLMFAO LOL :rof:

 

[5-90]

i'm honestly not trying to be an arse and this isn't a personal attack, i'm just trying to defend the opposing view.

with that said....



stuff like LOL is just an acronym



[sarcasm]
so we should do away with calling our country the USA? darn those slackers and not wanting to type out United States of America!!!! << shakes fist in the air >>
[/sarcasm]

therefore through deductive logic, you don't like acronyms. you're gonna need to change your sig



i'll make the changes for you and highlight in bold


that last one was just a joke


again, i'm just trying to make a point about what we're really talking about. it doesn't matter to me if anyone doesn't particularly care for acronyms. that's everyones prerogative. i just don't like it when others try to make others conform to theirs. (not that collin was - i simply quoted him to make my point about acronyms)

and where to we stop? should we ban contractions as well? i mean come on, if we don't like LOL why should we like words like can't, we're, and don't?

There is a difference between an "acronym" and an "abbreviation." An abbreviation may be either a foreshortened word (when the original is too long for common use,) or the initials of the "main" words in a phrase that is used rather commonly. Words like "a," "an," "and," "the," and others may be eliminated for expedience. "LOL" is an abbreviation for "laughing out loud," "CIA" for "Central Intelligence Agency," et al.

An "acronym" is an abbreviation that has either become a word on its down, or can be pronounced as a word. "NASA" is an example - the "National Aeronautics and Space Administration" has been foreshortened to its initials, and results in a pronouncable word.

Then there are the things that can go either way - "" is an example of this. I find pronouncing "" to be cumbersome - so I tend to "say it" as a series of letters, and it's an abbreviation to me. There are people who don't mind saying it as a word - in those cases, it's an acronym. It is simply a matter of preference.

However, things like "DoD," "DoJ," and the like are not acronyms - they are abbreviations.

Then, there is simple "trade shorthand" - when the context is understood, words can be eliminated to make things easier. Machinists, for instance, don't talk about "one hundred thousandths plus or minus five ten-thousandths," it's "one hundred plus/minus five tenths." To an outsider, it doesn't make sense. To another machinist, it makes perfect sense - and saves a lot of time. He probably takes notes the same way - they make sense to him and it saves writing.

However, such shorthand used outside of its context is the issue - it makes you look either lazy or stupid, because you can't be arsed to "speak" properly. If you're texting, for instance, and sending it to another person who understand the shorthand, it's not a problem. If, however, you send it to someone who doesn't understand what you're talking about, you have a problem. Also, if you use it "out of context" (in a medium where the shorthand is not commonplace,) du hast einen grosse problem. People won't understand you.

I know there are some elements of foreshortening we use here that most people wouldn't get - who would know what an AW4, or a BA-10/5, or a D44 is - Hell, when you say "XJ," the first vehicle that would come to mind for most people would be made by Jaguar. But, it makes sense to us.

There's nothing against shortening the language to make communication quicker (it becomes necessary in some places, actually.) It's when that sort of thing gets used outside of its context that we run into trouble. If you're going to "talk in text," then keep it in text messages only. Pittman shorthand should be restricted to shorthand note-taking - you're not going to type it in Pittman as a final version, are you?

Endeth the sermon

 

[FitchVA]

what if i'm posting from my phone?


that's all well and good. i'm not debating on the usage or get into an English debate. i got irritated by the fact that there was talk of actually trying to put a stop to people on naxja from using all of the LOL, BTW, etc.

oh, and less we forget, these "phone texting" word styles as we're calling them were around way before you could text message on a phone. they became more commonplace in the online chat world

 

[5-90]

what if i'm posting from my phone?


that's all well and good. i'm not debating on the usage or get into an English debate. i got irritated by the fact that there was talk of actually trying to put a stop to people on naxja from using all of the LOL, BTW, etc.

oh, and less we forget, these "phone texting" word styles as we're calling them were around way before you could text message on a phone. they became more commonplace in the chat world

Oh I know that last - but I didn't use them much on IRC, either. I prefer clarity over expedience in most cases.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

One place that foreshortening is common is in chiseled inscriptions on Roman monuments and public works. That's one place where banging out the whole word maybe wasn't worth the trouble. On the other hand: When discussing XJs and MJs, I appreciate someone using AW or NP instead of making me read the whole words.

However, forcing your readers to expend precious time and energy deciphering your shorthand, garbled sentence structure, and cryptic abbreviations from outside the Jeepin' experience is a bit rude. In effect, in choosing to save yourself time and energy by foreshortening excessively you are stealing that time and energy from your readers. Of course, rambling incessantly on and on about it is not a waste of time.

 

[FrankDV]

eyez justs wanna be able too reed tit...tats al






Note: all mistakes above were done deliberately. HeHeHe LMAO ROFL >

 

[FitchVA]

However, forcing your readers to expend precious time and energy deciphering your shorthand, garbled sentence structure, and cryptic abbreviations from outside the Jeepin' experience is a bit rude.

is this honestly such a big occurrence here? maybe because i can read it or pick up it's meaning fast that it never registers with me, but i can't really recall anyone using the far-out-there "textings"?

and they're not forcing you to do jack. unless the OP (that's Original Poster for those that don't know ) is sitting with you at your computer with a gun to your head. if you don't like it or appreciate it, stop reading and move on.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

what if i'm posting from my phone?


that's all well and good. i'm not debating on the usage or get into an English debate. i got irritated by the fact that there was talk of actually trying to put a stop to people on naxja from using all of the LOL, BTW, etc.

oh, and less we forget, these "phone texting" word styles as we're calling them were around way before you could text message on a phone. they became more commonplace in the online chat world

I have always assumed that they developed first on full sized key boards, in chat rooms simply out of a desire to get your reply in ahead of other replies. I know that I stay out of chat rooms because I can't keep up, but that has more to do with my cognitive skills than my typing speed.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

The latter point, first.

...and they're not forcing you to do jack. unless the OP (that's Original Poster for those that don't know ) is sitting with you at your computer with a gun to your head. if you don't like it or appreciate it, stop reading and move on.

If it's on I am forced to read it, in the same way that a wino is forced to use the money you gave him at the street corner to buy another bottle of wine, instead of a good dinner.


First point, last.

is this honestly such a big occurrence here?

No. I was being facetious (lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous).See my sig.

 

[SeansBlueXJ]

Umm wow my head hurts!! All this talking about how we should be talking.

 

[XJ Dreamin']

Umm wow my head hurts!! All this talking about how we should be talking.

Oh, man. There's a '60's anti-establishment song in there somewhere...talking about how we should be talking...That's heavy.

 

[FitchVA]

Umm wow my head hurts!! All this talking about how we should be talking.

excellent point my brother! i've seen many a thread on here that has caused me headaches. i say we make a rule that those types of threads should be banned. can a brutha get second on that motion?

 

[SeansBlueXJ]

excellent point my brother! i've seen many a thread on here that has caused me headaches. i say we make a rule that those types of threads should be banned. can a brutha get second on that motion?

Can i second a motion that was created on my idea? if so i second (x2 for thoes shorthanders) :cheers:

 

[red91]

its a lot easier to type like that and some things like using u for you is just a lot easier and accepted now and if u cant figure that out well im sry

Actually...your lazy. And it's only accepted by your peers.

Good luck at Burger King if you can get past the job application.

I see this $hit on apps and I don't take them....Yes I'm required to hang on to them for a certain amount of time.

Doesn't mean I read them....becuase I don't. I'm not "required by law" to.

Let the rest of the illiterates know.

 

[WB9YZU]

I spent a few hours, just kidding, reading the thread and I have a small amount to add.

Back in High School and most of College, I spent a lot of time on the 2way using morse code. Yes, we used tons of short hand in order to save transmission time. Like for example: Transmission would be Xmission or even Xmison. The abreviations, like I'm sure texting, were mutually agreed on and as long as you didn't have to resend it, you were golden. We didn't use the abreviations in our day to day communications and writing because they were hard to read if you didn't know the game.

I think it was XJ dreaming who said something about agreed to abreviations. like for example: NP231 instead of New Process 231. However, that's not what I'm talking about. I am talking about text speak.

I saw a few of those replys, and franky, I'm tired and left my secret decoder ring in my other pocket. I you had something to add, great. If your post was abusive, then perhaps it was better in Text speak

I know it's hard for some folks to type, and for some to put two words in a string and pretend it's a sentence. I failed grammar all through school, am horrible at spelling, I find typing to be a chore, and sometimes it takes me hours to create a post; however, I find that typing and trying to form complete, coherent sentences is a learning experience and I'm not talking about the folks who actually try. I am talking about the folks who do it just to be "cool" or to save a few key strokes.
Interestingly enough, the style of writing and content seem to go hand in hand.

Lastly, I know there are those who state that it is just a Forum and I'll type the way I please. Well, that's OK... But you won't get information from the seasoned Forum users who can't make out, or won't bother to decode what you typed, or should I say "Keyboarded"; your loss.

 

[MisterFubar]

Lastly, I know there are those who state that it is just a Forum and I'll type the way I please. Well, that's OK... But you won't get information from the seasoned Forum users who can't make out, or won't bother to decode what you typed, or should I say "Keyboarded"; your loss.

That should be at the top of every forum. :cheers:

 

[Fergie]

W-I-T-T-Y

Rent free?

 

[WaXJ_Skier]

omg. wtf. tsinf.... idk wtf ur prb is bt w/e stfu

sad part is I didn't even have to think about that I read that just as fast as regular english

 

[JeepinCoastie]

SNAFU @

 

[UNCC_99XJ]

Well maybe I'm the minority teenager here but I hate those stupid friggin abbreviations. I'm not the fastest typist but I would still rather spell out the words than use the abbreviations, to me abbreviating things just makes you sound dumb. I do text message people from time to time, but to me it's not worth saving the 2 seconds to put "u" instead of "you". On a side note, whoever came up with "LOL" should be shot.
My Two Cents
-Collin

I agree....for the most part.

I try not to use "texting" type lingo when typing posts and such on the internet, but at the same time, seeing as how we've (we've being the teenagers of today) grown up with it, I can see how it's become common practice. I'll admit that I use "LOL" or "WTF" some around here, but I do try to limit it, and type like I would normally talk as if we were speaking face to face. I'm pretty sure you don't actually say LOL if somebody makes you laugh in real life....atleast I hope not.

I definitely agree on the text messaging part. I'm a big fan of sending a text rather than calling sometimes (for example if i'm at school and were in and out of classes and I need to get an important message to a roommate). Much less trouble than trying to call them while they're in class. But I often get ragged on for actually forming sentences and words in a text message. For example, instead of "yo u need to c me b4 u leave l8r" it's "hey, you need to see me before you leave later"