This is Progress?....

Ironmen77

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Scenario: Jack pulls into school parking lot with rifle in gun rack.

1973 - Vice Principal comes over, takes a look at Jack's rifle, goes to
his car and gets his to show Jack.
2006 - School goes into lockdown, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and
never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized
students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1973 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up
best friends. Nobody goes to jail, nobody arrested, nobody expelled.

2006 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge
them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.

1973 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by Principal.
Sits still in class.

2006 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets
extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his father's car and his Dad gives him
a whipping.

1973 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college,
and becomes a successful businessman.

2006 - Billy's Dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster
care and joins a gang. Billy's sister is told by state psychologist that
she remembers being abused herself and their Dad goes to prison. Billy's
mom has affair with psychologist.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ ++++++++

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some headache medicine to
school.

1973 - Mark shares headache medicine with Principal out on the smoking
dock.

2006 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car
searched for drugs and weapons.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ ++++

Scenario: Mary turns up pregnant.

1973 - 5 High School Boys leave town. Mary does her senior year at a
special school for expectant mothers.

2006 - Middle School Counselor calls Planned Parenthood, who notifies the
ACLU. Mary is driven to the next state over and gets an abortion without
her parent's consent or knowledge. Mary given condoms and told to be more
careful next time.
++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1973: Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.

2006: Pedro's cause is taken up by state democratic party. Newspaper
articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a
requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit
against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned
from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns
for a living because he can't speak English.
++++++++++++ +++++++++

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the 4t h of
July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1973 - Ants die.

2006 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic
terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers
confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed
to fly again.
++++++++++++ +++++++++

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee.
He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary, hugs him to comfort him.

1973 - In a short time Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2006 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She
faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
 
i agree, you just summed up everything i see as wrong in the society today, as i grow up facing these same issues.

ie get in a fight at school, cops are called, taken out in cuffs, both suspended for a minimum of 5 days. whether or not you even take a swing. it happened to my buddy and me. we got jumped by two kids (race doesnt matter), never got a swing in, he cought the brunt of the first blow, i turned to help, knocked one kid out, the other got me in the the forehead (luckily im IRISH, those of you lucky enough to be irish as well know why this helps) and broke his hand and my balance. we were all suspended, including my buddy. except my principal saw most of it so we got 2 days, they got 1.5 weeks. (because they were mouthing off in the office)
 
That is one good thing about living in michigan, a friend of mine had shotgun shells in his car (hunting sesion) and the drug dogs found then. The cops said he could either give him the shells or go to jail and get suspended. They knew he was a hunter and werent stupid about it or anything. I think there are alot more stupid people that would want to go into a school and kill eeryone now days so maybe it isnt all bad.
 
ArcticCat843 said:
That is one good thing about living in michigan, a friend of mine had shotgun shells in his car (hunting sesion) and the drug dogs found then. The cops said he could either give him the shells or go to jail and get suspended. They knew he was a hunter and werent stupid about it or anything. I think there are alot more stupid people that would want to go into a school and kill eeryone now days so maybe it isnt all bad.

So what was the purpose of taking the shells ? I'd be a mite ticked if some cop confiscated a box #7 1/2 field loads outta my jeep or one of my shotguns OR rifles OR anything, let em buy his own $#%$# ammo...
Law enforcment has way too much power now a days IMO.
 
RichP said:
So what was the purpose of taking the shells ? I'd be a mite ticked if some cop confiscated a box #7 1/2 field loads outta my jeep or one of my shotguns OR rifles OR anything, let em buy his own $#%$# ammo...
Law enforcment has way too much power now a days IMO.
The point was he could have been in alot more trouble and been exspelled but they were nice and gave him a warrning by just taking the shells. They are usally pretty strick about bringing wepons to school (and yes they say shells are a wepon) They just said dont do it again. I would b happy to get off that easy if it happend to me. I agree that Law enforcment has to much power btw. The best thing todo is to get a CCW so you can have whatever you want in your car and it doesnt have to be in a locked case that is not acsessable to the driver. I will be doing this when i turn 21 just to get out of some of the transportation laws and stuff.
 
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ArcticCat843 said:
They are usally pretty strick about bringing wepons to school (and yes they say shells are a wepon) I would b happy to get off that easy if it happend to me. I agree that Law enforcment has to much power btw

Yep...it's still ammunition. He was very lucky he ran into a lenient/understanding cop.
 
I forgot some shells in my friends truck box and the same thing happened, but he only got 3 days of suspension. I wish he would have said they were mine, I could have used a 3 day vacation.
 
When I was in HS I cleaned my gun in shop class...

and target shot on recess...

yea my high school had recess...


I was home schooled

... the teacher slapped me silly a couple times too...
Fun...
 
fuckin bleeding heart liberals is whats wrong with this country.
Opps did I offend anyone, sounds like my Sons Mother! "why you cant put him to time out, you might hurt his feelings." I really really really hate to say it but my Son has about a 99% chance of being a pussy! Oh yea his momma is one of the above
 
Okay, how are 'liberals' any worse than the conservatives that enacted the Patriot Act? Or push for the disregard of the Geneva Convention? Or Unlawful search and sieze? Or people being held with out due process? Aren't some of these things in some piece of paper called the Constitution?

I don't know about you, but my papa always told me to live by what I preach and I don't see much of that anymore in either party. Liberals aren't the only ones driving this country in the ground. . . .
 
Those exaples are some nice extreme fiction. Why is such extremeism put out so everyone can talk about it as fact. Liberals are viewed as woosies, and since they don't give a good smack down when that is said is kind of proof so... The problem is lawyers. Johnny shoots up Columbine, lawyers have a field day because the District failed to protect the kids, now other districts can't be exposed to that kind of liability so they do knee jerk stuff to try harder to protect YOUR children. Like the same knee jerk reactions to 9-11. I'm sorry, did that offend anyone? God knows I wouldn't want to do that.

I'm such a retard, why do I debate fiction. We should go back to the good old days when men had the "right" to beat his wife and kids unconsious. When we could drink and drive without any fear of law enforcment. And when we had a real bad day, we could string up a colored with the Sheriff to help us feel better about our selves. Ya, no progress at all. Definetly going in the wrong direction.
 
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I agree and can relate to some of the above examples but some of those are pure fiction, no school in america doesn't require english class. I'm a democrat, a law student, and I've been suspended from high school for having a pocket knife. Was I happy about it? No. I used my knife to open a package and a teacher saw it and reported me. But, I can see both sides, schools are responsible for the well being of all their students, and with a student body of over a thousand they can't make case by case exeptions that could potentialy turn into a bad situation. Maybe It's just that I'm that special kind of liberal that owns guns, hunts, drives a gas guzzler, but sees social injustice as a bad thing, a few of like minded people were elected this year. It's the future of a centrist democratic party. Prepare yourselves.
 
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." JFK
JFK was a Democrat.
Now could you see Nancy Polosi saying anything even close to this? Or anyother Dem? They want this country to be a Socialist Nation!
Now we can pay for BorderJumpers to be on welfare and that 700 mile wall on the border will "have to be investigated" before we can never build it.
 
1985xjlaredo said:
Now could you see Nancy Polosi saying anything even close to this? Or anyother Dem? They want this country to be a Socialist Nation!
Now we can pay for BorderJumpers to be on welfare and that 700 mile wall on the border will "have to be investigated" before we can never build it.

Ya, that is exactly what every Democrat wants. For the U.S. to be the U.S.S.R. I get so tired of people regurgitating party dogma. Socialist believe that the welfare of the state, is more important than the welfare of the individual. There is not a single Democrat in this country that believes that, inluding Pelosi.

Also, what do you care if Illegals are getting benifits? It's just tax dollars. Didn't you know they grow on trees? The same tax dollars that pay Exxon's subsidies. The same tax dollars that pays Halliburton's no bid contracts. The same tax dollars that paid for the 6300 riders attached to the highway bill Bush signed into law. Come on, it's all going for a good cause right?
 
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