THe NAC Lots-O-BFG KO2 Thread

[ktm racer 419]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

I'd try to shoot for some creepies again Sam.

Downgrading on tires would make me miserable.

On that note, I'm going to try and milk my MTRs through this year, and depending on financials I'll probably get creepies next winter/spring.

i seriously should have bought the 40x13.5 17's when i had a chance to. even if they would have sat in my house for 2 years.

you guys would hate me if i told you the price i could have gotten them for. brand new from a tire dealer.

 

[MoparManiac]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

Chris just sell them to Sam.

Sam buy them and grind down your calipers.

 

[cmelo]

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the rearend is going to probably be chevy 63" leaf springs. and im gonna decide the height back there by the mounting points of them.

front i'm gonna bolt a dana 60 under it and see what happens. shackle flip is a definate possibility.

swampers are the official tire of leaf sprung, spring over axle trucks from 1974 to 1986

I sold my shackle flip for $20. Either way, the 44 perches are tall, I just showed you what your lift will be. If you're going to try and wheel with a full length bed at first just shackle flip the rear. Only the rear mount, ALL the shackle flipped trucks you look at have lowered down front and rear mounts. You can also just cut a hole in your rear hanger, plate it, and bolt you spring back in. Chop it off the frame when you're done. Guarantee you'll decide to inboard your springs come the 63" swap.

If you haven't looked yet, the frame isn't straight, you probably noticed it flares out after the transmission crossmember. Not only that but it narrows again halfway between the bed. If you're gonna bob it you have two choices, just chop the bed, or section the frame out too. Either way, more time, less J truck boner wheeling.

Not that I've already done EVERYTHING you're talking about doing already and researched it for 5 years or anything.

 

[ktm racer 419]

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The Englishtown/Raceway Park swap meet is this weekend. My goal is to get rid of my Creepies because I've moved them once already and I'm tired of it. If I bring them there it's gonna take a lot of convincing to make me load them back into the trailer, then unload them again when I get home, and still have to do something with them later.

Thinkin probably $1000 for all 5, 4 mounted on beadlock wheels, one on a Cragar steelie w/tube (actually the most tread of the bunch), down the road. Fair?

I'll also have a pile of random '94 YJ shit and a poster for the frame w/axles, and probably another poster with those dumb little tearoff info tabs for my 60/14b.

not a single person was interested in my set at the swap meet once i told them $950. yet about 1000 people asked.

swap meets are full of rednecks looking for swampers with 10% tread left for $400.

 

[cmelo]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

Chris just sell them to Sam.

Sam buy them and grind down your calipers.

Pretty sure Chris has at least 16" rim. He had them on the same axles sam wants to run..

This is where we make sam feel like a pussy if he doesn't buy them.

 

[foxwar71]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

Chris just sell them to Sam.

Sam buy them and grind down your calipers.

This.
End discussion.

 

[cmelo]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

swap meets are full of rednecks looking for swampers with 10% tread left for $400.

WHICH REMINDS ME

Any of you NH guys wanna grab these for me :thumbup:

http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/2985870625.html

 

[ktm racer 419]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

I sold my shackle flip for $20. Either way, the 44 perches are tall, I just showed you what your lift will be. If you're going to try and wheel with a full length bed at first just shackle flip the rear. Only the rear mount, ALL the shackle flipped trucks you look at have lowered down front and rear mounts. You can also just cut a hole in your rear hanger, plate it, and bolt you spring back in. Chop it off the frame when you're done. Guarantee you'll decide to inboard your springs come the 63" swap.

If you haven't looked yet, the frame isn't straight, you probably noticed it flares out after the transmission crossmember. Not only that but it narrows again halfway between the bed. If you're gonna bob it you have two choices, just chop the bed, or section the frame out too. Either way, more time, less J truck boner wheeling.

Not that I've already done EVERYTHING you're talking about doing already and researched it for 5 years or anything.

yea ive taken a good look at the frame back there.
i have a couple ideas on how i want to do it.

honestly wasnt planning on inboarding the springs. further out= more effective and more stable.

 

[MoparManiac]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

SAM BUY CHRIS'S TIRES YOU PUSSY

 

[XJLI]

Or be lame and buy the brackets to run the small chevy brakes on a 60.

 

[ktm racer 419]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

YEA SAM YOU XXXXING FAGGOT!!!

 

[vetteboy]

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Chris just sell them to Sam.

Sam buy them and grind down your calipers.

Mine are 16" GM truck wheels, no grinding needed.

not a single person was interested in my set at the swap meet once i told them $950. yet about 1000 people asked.

swap meets are full of rednecks looking for swampers with 10% tread left for $400.

That's how I got rid of my wasted Iroks. :laugh:

Cash talks and I don't expect to get a lot out of 'em. The axles are a different story and I know better than to try and dump those at a swap meet.

Speaking of dumping things. Billy/Ken/anyone else, are you still interested in the doubler? Before I post it anywhere, $350 obo for the whole mess, it's a little bit of a fixer-upper special but I wouldn't hesitate to put it back in my rig and run it for another season the way it is.

 

[ktm racer 419]

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Or be lame and buy the brackets to run the small chevy brakes on a 60.

i wont have to with those 16s.

and i already have all the brakes together on the axles. so eff that noise.

 

[MoparManiac]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

BUY HIS TIRES.

BUY HIS TIRES.

BUY HIS TIRES.

BUY HIS TIRES.

BUY HIS TIRES.

 

[cmelo]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

yea ive taken a good look at the frame back there.
i have a couple ideas on how i want to do it.

honestly wasnt planning on inboarding the springs. further out= more effective and more stable.

Dude, I think until you started this build I was convinced you were some bad ass "gonna whip up something sweet without over thinking bullshit" kind of guy. If you inboard your springs 5 inches total(2.5" each side), which by the way is the stock spring pad width on your 14 bolt. You think you'll have made them too narrow? The springs are going to fold up on themselves(ya if they're inboarded the axles have more leverage on them, make them feel softer better ride blah blah). Not to mention, springs won't be a 1/4 inch from your brakes.

Not that one way is better than the other BUT you're going to section out your frame to keep the stock wide as shit section? Hint: if you do it like me, how will you angle the mounts on the frame towards each other? By outboarding them a little more? You'll be mounting your springs to your spindles.

 

[XJLI]

I have to agree with Colin on this one.

 

[kastein]

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Alright who's ACTUALLY going on Thursday to the 99?

If no one cool is going then I'm staying home to hopefully finish my brother's gearset.

I willgo if others do, that means stay home.

Mine are 16" GM truck wheels, no grinding needed.



That's how I got rid of my wasted Iroks. :laugh:

Cash talks and I don't expect to get a lot out of 'em. The axles are a different story and I know better than to try and dump those at a swap meet.

Speaking of dumping things. Billy/Ken/anyone else, are you still interested in the doubler? Before I post it anywhere, $350 obo for the whole mess, it's a little bit of a fixer-upper special but I wouldn't hesitate to put it back in my rig and run it for another season the way it is.

Consider it sold. I am going to slap my shit together and be that dumbass running a doubler and 3.55 axle gears till I have the money to drop on bling gears and stuff. Got paypal? Coming up this way anytime soon?

Get your cameras out, my driveshafts are in for a party.

 

[ktm racer 419]

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Dude, I think until you started this build I was convinced you were some bad ass "gonna whip up something sweet without over thinking bullshit" kind of guy. If you inboard your springs 5 inches total(2.5" each side), which by the way is the stock spring pad width on your 14 bolt. You think you'll have made them too narrow? The springs are going to fold up on themselves(ya if they're inboarded the axles have more leverage on them, make them feel softer better ride blah blah). Not to mention, springs won't be a 1/4 inch from your brakes.

Not that one way is better than the other BUT you're going to section out your frame to keep the stock wide as shit section? Hint: if you do it like me, how will you angle the mounts on the frame towards each other? By outboarding them a little more? You'll be mounting your springs to your spindles.

im doing the weld on disc brake brackets so i dont have anything too close to my leaves.

rough measurements say it will work, but im not burnign anything in until i have the bed off and the frame chopped and leaves in place.


ill figya it out

 

[vetteboy]

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Consider it sold. I am going to slap my shit together and be that dumbass running a doubler and 3.55 axle gears till I have the money to drop on bling gears and stuff. Got paypal? Coming up this way anytime soon?

I have some pics on my phone of what's kind of sketchy on it, I'll upload those in a lil bit. Nothing major. I have Paypal but if you're definitely interested, that's good enough for me, I don't need the money right away.

edit: I'll also throw in the Novak 231 shifter I have, I'm not gonna use it again and you might be able to cobble it to shift the doubler box.

I didn't have any trips up there planned any time soon, but Dundy wants my radiator and a couple other small things, Sam might want the tires, I still owe Rob a proportioning valve laugh, now you and the doubler...pretty soon I'm gonna be wishing I'd gone in on Travis's tube order. :dunce:

 

[cmelo]

Re: THe NAC Lots-O-Post Thread

im doing the weld on disc brake brackets so i dont have anything too close to my leaves.

rough measurements say it will work, but im not burnign anything in until i have the bed off and the frame chopped and leaves in place.


ill figya it out

Ya it's been done, it's still close. Also before you go with 63s consider this. I'm assuming you're using them because you read they're like the king of leaf springs or something. They are long as shit and have a centered pin. My stock rears which are just crown replacements are tits. With those cheap edelbrock shocks they rode better than the fronts, and my fronts were soft. The crown springs I'm betting are thicker(each separate leaf) than the 63s.

If you bob the bed with stock springs and flip them at the same time you can do something like this.

The shorter spring is better for doing something like this since it won't be hanging out the back nearly as far to get dragged on shit. That's the one thing I wish I did when I bobbed mine. With 40s you would be close to the magical 90 degree departure angle.