The Griz Build UP

[The Griz]

i like the idea of plate for structure i already thought about jerry can mounts and highlift mounts

 

[The Griz]

well i finally spent the money on more steel and did this today

i added a tail gate and some more triangulation to styiffin up the frame and cage.

i also put a big sheet of steel on the bed to add strength as well as give me something solid to weld to on the bed

 

[The Griz]

i also decided to throw the spare in to see what it would look like and i like it:thumbup:

here it is with out the spare

 

[xjeepers2]

you need to out some action pics up i wanna c this thing

 

[asp]

if it makes you feel any better about rolling it, i found a picture of it on another forum in black and white and it's been my desktop for some time now. if i can remember to i'll grab it and throw it up. i've been watching the progress but haven't said anything thus far. looks pretty sweet.

 

[5spd_xj]

^^ i've seen that picture as well, looks cool

 

[asp]

here's what i was referring to...

 

[87xjco]

That very cool pic was taken by Kimo Boeche, he was on the trail with us that day when the roll over happened. He later removed it from the web as he was considering making a poster out of it. But of course some copies are still floating around out there.



Here's what he said about how he processed the photo,

"The roll-over pic was taken in RAW with the D40 and kit lense @ 18mm. I exported the RAW file at 5 different exposures. I combined the 5 JPEGS into a single HDR image with Photomatix. I then brought it back into PS for sharpness, fill, and contrast adjustments. I cropped just a little off the edges, added some vignette, and the final JPEG is the one I posted.

It's heavily processed and shows the scars, but at least the processing adds to the surreal and primal look of the pic.

I'm still learning how to use PS. I hope over the next year or two my skills get better. Could use a new camera already too. Just wish I got a 10MP+ with some better features, maybe like a D80 or D100."

 

[asp]

i love the pic, and i wouldn't want him to lose his copyrights... want me to pull it down?

 

[The Griz]

terry i gotta get kimos number that is def the best pic of my jeep i have ever seen

well i havent been able to get too much done with weather starting to turn and the fact that my last huge update i ran out of welding wire i was able to take it out on atrail about a month ago i just havent been able to get the pics up on the web yet i will do it hopefully next week.

 

[Stihl029]

What about a lighter duty flasher? That should take care of the quick flash.

 

[Ba-Riedo]

here's what i was referring to...

Every jeep I have seen with those tires seems to end up on its lid or flopped.:wierd:

-Alex

 

[Begster]

Every jeep I have seen with those tires seems to end up on its lid or flopped.:wierd:

-Alex

After reading that, I went through all the people I know with those tires, and all of them have had misfortune. 2 rolled theirs on the street, 1 broke a rear axle on the 1st obstacle at a trail, and another one blew the front drivers tire on the same trail on 2 separate occasions.

Glad I didn't buy those tires.

 

[The Griz]

i dont blame the tires at all for the roll i am very happy with those tires and prob will buy them again i like how the crawl and how they drive on the road

 

[Goatman]

i also decided to throw the spare in to see what it would look like and i like it:thumbup:

here it is with out the spare

How come no cross bracing in the B pillar hoop? Without the roof on there, the B pillar hoop is anchoring the whole structure, and it needs cross bracing to be strong enough. The two tubes you added from the top of the B pillar down to the middle of that rear cross bar are fine, but not strong enough since there is no support in the middle of the cross bar (the one the shoulder belts are attached to). Think in terms of nodes, points where multiple tubes come together, which adds a lot of strength. You can visualize lines of force, where the force will go if different areas of the cage are hit in a roll, and that force should run through tubes in mostly a straight line all the way to the floor. Right now, a hard hit to the side could deform the B pillar hoop, it would be simple to fix that. At the same time, the shoulder belts should be attached closer to the seats on the B hoop cross bars. Theoretically, in the current design, a hard roll could deform the B hoop, push those two rearward down bars bending that crossbar they're attached to and tightening the shoulder belts against your body. A couple more well placed tubes could make your cage much stronger and safer.

 

[The Griz]

How come no cross bracing in the B pillar hoop? Without the roof on there, the B pillar hoop is anchoring the whole structure, and it needs cross bracing to be strong enough. The two tubes you added from the top of the B pillar down to the middle of that rear cross bar are fine, but not strong enough since there is no support in the middle of the cross bar (the one the shoulder belts are attached to). Think in terms of nodes, points where multiple tubes come together, which adds a lot of strength. You can visualize lines of force, where the force will go if different areas of the cage are hit in a roll, and that force should run through tubes in mostly a straight line all the way to the floor. Right now, a hard hit to the side could deform the B pillar hoop, it would be simple to fix that. At the same time, the shoulder belts should be attached closer to the seats on the B hoop cross bars. Theoretically, in the current design, a hard roll could deform the B hoop, push those two rearward down bars bending that crossbar they're attached to and tightening the shoulder belts against your body. A couple more well placed tubes could make your cage much stronger and safer.

i have placed a couple of more tubes since i took that pic i put a roof over the seats and that helped to tie in the b hoop as well as i added some support to the seat belt bar down to the floor to make it so that there are 9 point of the cage touching the floor. i feel like i have looked at every angle i could roll and looked at how the weight of the vehicle would put stress on each tube and weld to try to figure out what would happen. as for bracing the b piller i plan on putting some bracing in it i just have run out of welding wire as soon as i get the wire and i have the time on a nice day i will add some bracing i wont be taking it out on any serious trails before i do get more bracing on it.

 

[The Griz]

well we got a bunch of snow this week in durango. its very cold driving my jeep but it is doing well on the pack snow and ice which me happy

 

[The Griz]

i drove the jeep all the way from durango to colorado springs and it did great i am starting to get ready to do the axles i already have a rear dana 60 out of a 79 ford f-250 and am starting to look for a front either another 60 or a beefed up 44, which ever i find a big deal on. i also just purchesed a front driver side door and will be getting a new passenger side door as well. to help clean up the look of the body. i have started drawing up some new plans for rear quter panals to try to clean them up any ideas would be great i have considered chopping them off and building new ones.

 

[Freaky McPants]

here's what i was referring to...

Thanks for the new Desktop Background!!!

 

[The Griz]

well first trip to moab since the roll and the jeep performed perfectly. it did everything i expected and than some.i now have a better idea of what else needs to be done to it but if you have any ideas let me know. i know i am a rookie when it come to this stuff so any help would be greatly appreciated.