Shaving an 8.25

The 8.25 housing is muy beefy than most comparable axles.
 
Bloose said:
No, but I'll snap one tonight. It's off the Jeep but on the axle and it's beat up from doing its job.

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That's what I need to add to my guard.

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DirtyMJ said:
Great. What's it made of and what's it weigh?



I've never owned one.
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metal and quite a bit
 
hintonsooner said:
In my opinion, it's crazy to wheel an 8.25 without protection.
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Absolutely. On my most recent trip to Paragon I only remember backing into a rock once and when I checked my guard it looked as if it went through hell and back. I'm hoping soon I can get a Riddler cover to match my D30 one.


Are they coming out soon?
 
Bloose said:
No, but I'll snap one tonight. It's off the Jeep but on the axle and it's beat up from doing its job.

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Interested in selling the guard? JIM.
 
DirtyMJ said:
Great. What's it made of and what's it weigh?



I've never owned one.
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Dimension-wise the 8.25 is bigger than the Dana 44, particularly tube diameter.

On a side note, which I suppose is even off-topic, the Wrangler Dana 44 rear axles use Dana 35 tubes, or so I hear. Makes you wonder...
 
EricsXJ said:
Dimension-wise the 8.25 is bigger than the Dana 44, particularly tube diameter.

On a side note, which I suppose is even off-topic, the Wrangler Dana 44 rear axles use Dana 35 tubes, or so I hear. Makes you wonder...
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Actually the 44 has a 1/4" larger ring gear and slightly larger 30 spline axle shafts. So it is only slightly stronger in those areas. When I say slighlty I'm thinking it is so little it is only splitting hairs. The 8.25 does have larger tubes than a Cherokee 44 which should make it stiffer. The only realy advantages I think the 44 has over the 8.25 are the availability of lower gears, more locker options, and non c-clip shafts.

I think the non C-clip thing is over rated though. Even if you have non c shafts many times your pulling the diff to get the broken pieces out.

Bottom line is the 29 spline 8.25 is a great axle if you can live with 4.56 or higher gears.

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Bloose said:
Actually the 44 has a 1/4" larger ring gear and slightly larger 30 spline axle shafts. So it is only slightly stronger in those areas. When I say slighlty I'm thinking it is so little it is only splitting hairs. The 8.25 does have larger tubes than a Cherokee 44 which should make it stiffer. The only realy advantages I think the 44 has over the 8.25 are the availability of lower gears, more locker options, and non c-clip shafts.

I think the non C-clip thing is over rated though. Even if you have non c shafts many times your pulling the diff to get the broken pieces out.

Bottom line is the 29 spline 8.25 is a great axle if you can live with 4.56 or higher gears.

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Yeah, the ring is stronger on a 44, I seem to remember that the shafts are a tossup because the 44 shafts neckdown more aggressively after the splines. As far as I know, the pinion is stronger in the 8.25, the d44 tubes are 2.75" as opposed to the stiffer 3" offered by the 8.25

I've said it a million times, for those not wanting to push anything bigger than 33-35", if you've already got a 29 spline 8.25- why on earth go to anything else?

For the cost of swapping in a base d44, you could put a locker or disc brakes or buy the gears for the axle you already have that's highly unlikely to break.

If you need a d60 or a 9" or something like that to run 33-35s, you're my hero.

I also think the c-clip thing is made much too big a deal of, but that's because I haven't really challenged my axle much. Anyone destroyed shafts/gears from a c-clip walking itself out or something like that?

Edit- The flimsy diff cover sucks, and is a big dollop of turd icing on what was otherwise a really nice cake.
 
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Archdukeferdinand said:
Yeah, the ring is stronger on a 44, I seem to remember that the shafts are a tossup because the 44 shafts neckdown more aggressively after the splines. As far as I know, the pinion is stronger in the 8.25, the d44 tubes are 2.75" as opposed to the stiffer 3" offered by the 8.25

I've said it a million times, for those not wanting to push anything bigger than 33-35", if you've already got a 29 spline 8.25- why on earth go to anything else?

For the cost of swapping in a base d44, you could put a locker or disc brakes or buy the gears for the axle you already have that's highly unlikely to break.

If you need a d60 or a 9" or something like that to run 33-35s, you're my hero.

I also think the c-clip thing is made much too big a deal of, but that's because I haven't really challenged my axle much. Anyone destroyed shafts/gears from a c-clip walking itself out or something like that?

Edit- The flimsy diff cover sucks, and is a big dollop of turd icing on what was otherwise a really nice cake.
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I agree fully with all except the possible need to go lower than 4.56 gears in the 8.25 with 35" tires. I went to 4.88's and to be honest 5.13's would be better. Though some of my problem may be that my 130K mile motor may be losing some steam.

C clips should never actually cause a failure. It's just that if you break a shaft you cannot limp off the trail. Other than that I see no problem with c-clips. Now if you were talking c clips compared to a full floater, that's a whole different story. Like you said though, not needed for 35's or smaller.

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Bloose said:
Actually the 44 has a 1/4" larger ring gear and slightly larger 30 spline axle shafts. So it is only slightly stronger in those areas. When I say slighlty I'm thinking it is so little it is only splitting hairs. The 8.25 does have larger tubes than a Cherokee 44 which should make it stiffer. The only realy advantages I think the 44 has over the 8.25 are the availability of lower gears, more locker options, and non c-clip shafts.

I think the non C-clip thing is over rated though. Even if you have non c shafts many times your pulling the diff to get the broken pieces out.

Bottom line is the 29 spline 8.25 is a great axle if you can live with 4.56 or higher gears.

B
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Bob, now that you've made the switch...

Do you figure the switch just to get 7% deeper gears (4.56-4.88)was worth it?
 
Archdukeferdinand said:
is a big dollop of turd icing on what was otherwise a really nice cake.
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Thanks for that. I havent laughed that hard in a while, and you have made my crappy day better again. :cheers:
 
Bloose said:
I agree fully with all except the possible need to go lower than 4.56 gears in the 8.25 with 35" tires. I went to 4.88's and to be honest 5.13's would be better. Though some of my problem may be that my 130K mile motor may be losing some steam.
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Yeah, that's why I kept saying 33-35. Living here in the mountains, I don't think I'd try and push 35s with 4.56s, but someone in the flatlands might not have any problems.


As far as wheelability goes, individual results may vary. They have permission.
 
I'm a page or so behind here, but Bill Burge did a good job trimming up his 8.25 with a BTF cover.. It's held up very well for him, doesnt peel at all, and has good clearance.

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Bloose said:
Here are some pics of the diff gaurd,

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It looks like it did a good job of protecting the cover. It will sure slide over stuff alot easier.

So how have you been? It's been a long time since I've been on the forum.

TNT
 
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