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blaisetd

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My 10 year old son, Trent, recently stated after watching an episode of Overhauling "dad wouldn't it be cool if we could your get your truck on the show?" It was a sad day realizing that he didn't share in my love for my XJ ('90 XJ DD). I thought to myself....well if your mom (the ex) didn't have her hand i'm my pocket to the tune of $780 per month maybe dad could get something nice to drive. BTW I'm not against child support, but that is more than my mortgage pmt....... blaise
 
You know I'm kind of particular. I don't think I would want most of those guys working on my rig. The paint job would be cool and a new interior wouldn't hurt.
 
780.00 ? per month? I just wonder how they can justify that much money a month for one kid. i don't have kids so i don't know the formula for figuring how much a kid cost per month but 780 sounds like a little much. :dunno: I understand it's your kid so you're gonna pay. oh well at least you get to see him. take him wheelin' that will probably change his view of the XJ
 
Consider this...

Daycare for my kid would run $155 a week...

Kids ARE expensive...

But you can't put a price on spending time with them...
 
man your lucky only to be shelling out 780.00. or i guess i'm lucky that my kids like my junk the way it is:D
 
1000.00 a month for me, and 1 of my three lives with me..........

If you have kids,,,don't get divorced!!!!1hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
 
wow no wonder my dad hates me :D
 
Ramsey said:
wow no wonder my dad hates me :D
Hell no - I love my kids more than anything; I just realize that they're growing up with a greedy, high-maintenance beeyatch that is doing her best to try to convince them that I don't want them.

I look at court-ordered child support as meddling. If a couple were married, would they scream if the court insisted that they spend xx% of their income, each and every month toward the kids? That the court insisted that the money be put toward the kids before ANY other debts including rent or car repair? Hell no, married couples would scream bloody murder if that happened!! What happens in your household when there's an unexpected expense? You tighten the belt a bit and don't take that trip to Disneyland that was planned because you need to pay for something else. You don't have that luxury when the court orders you to pay THEIR calculation of support though. You pay or you can go to jail (without trial), lose your drivers and professional licenses, etc.

Thanks to organizations like NOW though, non-custodial parents (almost always fathers) are seen as cash cows...moms like my X only want to make sure they are going to get "their" money and there's nothing I can do to make sure she actually uses any of it to the betterment of the kids. She gets over $12,000 a year, tax-free and doesn't have to report a penny of it to anyone, including the IRS. I have to pay taxes on it, yet I never get to see it grace my checking account. Gee...I wonder why so many "deadbeat dads" exist? They simply can't afford to live AND support their Xs.
 
I don't pay child support anymore but I think that in order for the kid to get it the exwife should have to show an itemized bill of exactly where that money goes and how it helps the kid. Personally if it doesn't go to clothes,school suplies,food or medical then the mother shouldn't get a dime until she can prove it.
 
was waiting for some responses like that. but beej i dont care what you say you will always have my love...unless you run outta money. child support is a bitch, but that was the only way my mom could make it when we were younger, however my dad still gives her money to help out even though me and my brother are over 18 and live with pops. he's not all bad, when it comes to finances at least.
 
Im starting to like our system up here. You can negotiate it without a lawyer, and there are prescribed child support guidelines with amounts calculated according to your income. For lower incomes with one child, it works out to approximately 10% of your gross income, as your income climbs, the %age amount drops slightly. When you add another child, you typically add 5%, 2 kids: 3% each and so on. I'm generalizing here, but you get the point. The payee is expected to contribute an equal amount monthly to the raising of the child. The payor's amount is calculated based solely on the income of the payor, the payee's living situation does not come into it at all in 95% of cases. The remaining cases are comprised of disabled children (who require more assistance) or seriously marked disparity in income (ie: father has sole custody and makes minimum wage, and mother doesn't work but is married to a millionaire = mother has to pay a substantial contribution). The courts here are also starting to look more favorably towards the roles of fathers and their inherent capacity to give care. As well, child support is calculated completely independently of any alimony. The days of the mother automatically being the best choice are fast dwindling away...
 
Beej said:
Im starting to like our system up here. You can negotiate it without a lawyer, and there are prescribed child support guidelines with amounts calculated according to your income. For lower incomes with one child, it works out to approximately 10% of your gross income, as your income climbs, the %age amount drops slightly. When you add another child, you typically add 5%, 2 kids: 3% each and so on. I'm generalizing here, but you get the point. The payee is expected to contribute an equal amount monthly to the raising of the child. The payor's amount is calculated based solely on the income of the payor, the payee's living situation does not come into it at all in 95% of cases. The remaining cases are comprised of disabled children (who require more assistance) or seriously marked disparity in income (ie: father has sole custody and makes minimum wage, and mother doesn't work but is married to a millionaire = mother has to pay a substantial contribution). The courts here are also starting to look more favorably towards the roles of fathers and their inherent capacity to give care. As well, child support is calculated completely independently of any alimony. The days of the mother automatically being the best choice are fast dwindling away...



So Maybe I should divorce my 3rd wife, re-marry my first, move to Canada, get divorced, and re-marry my 2nd, divorce, then move back to Utah and re-marry my third, since we have no kids, then take my first back to court and get the amount reduced.
:D :thumbup:
 
Geepfreak said:
So Maybe I should divorce my 3rd wife, re-marry my first, move to Canada, get divorced, and re-marry my 2nd, divorce, then move back to Utah and re-marry my third, since we have no kids, then take my first back to court and get the amount reduced.
:D :thumbup:

i'm with you i'll do it:D

Dr Moab said:
I don't pay child support anymore but I think that in order for the kid to get it the exwife should have to show an itemized bill of exactly where that money goes and how it helps the kid. Personally if it doesn't go to clothes,school suplies,food or medical then the mother shouldn't get a dime until she can prove it.
agreed, for some reason my ex has a brand new car but yet my kids have cloths that don't fit. go figure
 
Child support? No sympathy from me. The wife and I decided to take our vows seriously. Yes it really is that simple, which is not to say easy. Only in death did we part. It is such a travesty to see the notion of it waste on those who will not commit nor choose to understand it.
Wanna whine, piss and moan about child support? Pull your wallet out of your stingy a$$, it's only money, they're only your children. You have absolutely no idea how good you have it or what you threw away.
 
agreed, for some reason my ex has a brand new car but yet my kids have cloths that don't fit. go figure

That's not the first time I've heard that story, my uncle's first wife spent all the money he sent for child support and his son's education on herself, the poor kid didn't know till he tried to do to school and she finally told him what she did.
 
Bent said:
Child support? No sympathy from me. The wife and I decided to take our vows seriously. Yes it really is that simple, which is not to say easy.
It takes two to make vows, but only one (her, in this case) to break them. Just you remember that, and I hope you're lucky enough to be in the 50% of marriages that survive. Don't think that your organized religion is going to save you either - my X taught the kids to lie about their whereabouts when she was dating her new hubby and living under my roof, and yet she still thinks she's in the right; her fucking pastor even took her side on a covert, extramarital affair.

Bent said:
Wanna whine, piss and moan about child support? Pull your wallet out of your stingy a$$, it's only money, they're only your children. You have absolutely no idea how good you have it or what you threw away.
Another misguided, holier-than-thou comment from someone who is generalizing. Honestly, that's not what I'd expect of you in most cases. I'm happy to give money to support my kids. I'd be happier to do it if the bitch would account for how it's being spent (bought a new house, has money for HER clothes, but complains that the kids don't have new shoes)...and like I said earlier, anything I need emergency funds for is second to the Court orders. F that crap.
 
Yucca-Man said:
It takes two to make vows, but only one (her, in this case) to break them. Just you remember that, and I hope you're lucky enough to be in the 50% of marriages that survive. Don't think that your organized religion is going to save you either - my X taught the kids to lie about their whereabouts when she was dating her new hubby and living under my roof, and yet she still thinks she's in the right; her fucking pastor even took her side on a covert, extramarital affair.

Another misguided, holier-than-thou comment from someone who is generalizing. Honestly, that's not what I'd expect of you in most cases. I'm happy to give money to support my kids. I'd be happier to do it if the bitch would account for how it's being spent (bought a new house, has money for HER clothes, but complains that the kids don't have new shoes)...and like I said earlier, anything I need emergency funds for is second to the Court orders. F that crap.

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