Regearing Questions? READ THIS!

[XJFire]

Ok, apparently regearing isn't very popular with me and the guys i wheel with. Now that I think of it none of us have regeared. I am running 36x13.50 Irok's on 3.55's. I can wheel just fine and have yet to meet a rock or hill I can't climb. Is my motor just a badass or would regearing really make that much of a difference?

 

[CanMan]

Ok, apparently regearing isn't very popular with me and the guys i wheel with. Now that I think of it none of us have regeared. I am running 36x13.50 Irok's on 3.55's. I can wheel just fine and have yet to meet a rock or hill I can't climb. Is my motor just a badass or would regearing really make that much of a difference?

Your 4.0 is not badass, and yes, with that size of a tire, regearing would do wonders for you. Trail rig only? Go for some axles that can support some 5.38 gears, and leave your guys that you wheel with behind. Try stock gears with a stick and those size tires. Or even 33's for that matter.

 

[XJFire]

It's mostly a trail rig.

I just wasn't sure because everyone always talk about how important regearing is and because I haven't had trouble climbing anything yet, I thought it was over rated....

 

[badron]

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Your theory almost holds. Chevy has no less than 6 different versions of the 5.3 liter V-8 in their half ton pickup for '07. Various power levels and E-85 capapble models
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Because Chevy is willing to put out all that money for testing. If they tested all the combination? Don't prove me incorrect. They may take it on the chin for so many engines?
Besides how many trucks/cars will Chevy sell? I don't know number myself but IM sure it will be several times what Jeep will. That may make it more profitable to put out so many combination.
Were as Jeep needs to keep the number of option down in order to keep the volume of parts up in order to take advantage of quantity pricing. Not a smog testing saving but a over all cost save never the less.
I know if Jeep offered more option they may sell more C/Ts. But this get into a mess of what will improve sells without running cost overboard thing.

 

[Ramsey]

Ok, apparently regearing isn't very popular with me and the guys i wheel with. Now that I think of it none of us have regeared. I am running 36x13.50 Irok's on 3.55's. I can wheel just fine and have yet to meet a rock or hill I can't climb. Is my motor just a badass or would regearing really make that much of a difference?

I new this one guy running 35s with 3.55s and he said he could wheel any trail any else could...

 

[badron]

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I new this one guy running 35s with 3.55s and he said he could wheel any trail any else could.
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Now many trails has he seen?
Do he own a transmission shop?
Will he cook your super on his torque converter/clutch at the end of the day?


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A good bud is hard to find
Even harder to lose
work safe

 

[Jes]

It's mostly a trail rig.

I just wasn't sure because everyone always talk about how important regearing is and because I haven't had trouble climbing anything yet, I thought it was over rated....

How many times have you run Patriot, or Carnage Gulch(Buena Vista), or Die Trying, or Cactus Ridge, or Billings Canyon, or 21RD. with that setup?

 

[ayoung]

if you regear, you will realize what you are missing...regearing was one of the best things i ever did, 4.88 on 33's is great

 

[XJFire]

How many times have you run Patriot, or Carnage Gulch(Buena Vista), or Die Trying, or Cactus Ridge, or Billings Canyon, or 21RD. with that setup?

Haven't ran any of those trails. I'm stationed down in Texas. Mostly all I have time for when I get home is a couple local places, and Old Stage Road. Theres alot of awesome trails up in there that only a few people know about. Honestly the only trail I've even seen outside of the springs area is Tincup. Got pics? I realize there are probably alot harder trails than what I run, and I want to run them, but time in Colorado is very limited.

 

[IntrepidXJ]

Haven't ran any of those trails. I'm stationed down in Texas. Mostly all I have time for when I get home is a couple local places, and Old Stage Road. Theres alot of awesome trails up in there that only a few people know about. Honestly the only trail I've even seen outside of the springs area is Tincup. Got pics? I realize there are probably alot harder trails than what I run, and I want to run them, but time in Colorado is very limited.

21 road: http://www.myxj.net/gallery/21_Road_4-29-06.php

Billings: http://www.myxj.net/gallery/Billings_Canyon_4-30-06.php

Carnage BV: http://www.myxj.net/gallery/Carnage_Gulch_5-7-06.php

unfortunately I have not made it to Montrose or Penrose yet......soon, though

 

[XJFire]

That looks like average for me. theres a few in there that i havent been on obstacles that big... lemme see if i can dig up some pics...

 

[Gold Cobra]

i'm poor, so i was wondering if i'm going from 3.07 to 4.56 how important is it to get the install kit?
(30/44 combo in case that matters)

 

[Kejtar]

i'm poor, so i was wondering if i'm going from 3.07 to 4.56 how important is it to get the install kit?
(30/44 combo in case that matters)

It's important cause
1. you'll need shims
2. you'll need bearings
3. your pinion seal could probably use a replacement
4. while you got your 30 appart think about doing the inner seals as well

 

[ayoung]

umm i would not bother to do a regear if you did not purchase the 60 dollar install kit...come one, if your are gonna wheel and modify jeeps for a hobby, you can come up with 100 bucks to buy install kits so that you do a gear install correctly

it would be real fun to not replace any carrier bearings or any of the seals, and then have them all go bad 6 months down the road

 

[vetteboy]

3. your pinion seal could probably use a replacement

I'd like to see someone get the pinion seal out without needing a replacement...so that's one.

Good luck getting the inner pinion bearing off without crimping the cage. Another thing to buy. Same goes for the carrier bearings but they're slightly easier.

Then there's the fact that you need a new carrier for the gears, which means you need a different shim set. Good luck finding that on its own. Then you'll need ring gear bolts too so the new gear doesn't fall off.

It really makes economic sense to just get the damn kit, if you think about it.

 

[Gold Cobra]

ok chillax, i'll get the install kit too. (thanks)

 

[bigolexj]

Stupid question but would I notice a big difference if I go from 4.10 to 4.56 (35s)? I'm talking significantly measurable acceleration improvements. Also, does anyone know what rpms I'd cruise at say 70mph in overdrive (4th-aw4 transmission)...??
!!!1

 

[CanMan]

Stupid question but would I notice a big difference if I go from 4.10 to 4.56 (35s)? I'm talking significantly measurable acceleration improvements. Also, does anyone know what rpms I'd cruise at say 70mph in overdrive (4th-aw4 transmission)...??
!!!1

Not a big difference, but an improvement none the less. If you got the axles to support it, id opt for 5.13's or 4.88's at the least.

I cant help you on the rpm's though.

 

[Menzenski]

If you got the axles to support it, id opt for 5.13's or 4.88's at the least.

x2. Deeper gears are better! I'm only on 31s; I have a 4:1 in my garage, and will be going to 4.88s as soon as money allows. I'm geared deeper than stock now (3.55s/31s vs. 3.07s/225s), and it's nowhere near deep enough for me.

 

[bigolexj]

I would go with 4.88s, but don't have the funds to go with the ford9" yet. When I do, you can bet I'll have 5.13s or lower in there..lol Thats just a big dream right now as I can barely afford 4.56s and a master install kit!! I have to disconnect the front driveshaft for a few months while I save to do the front too..