Product for you CA Builders

[mgolden]

http://www.rocklogic4x4.com/products/misc/bushings.htm

$7 Each.

-Mike

Whoops, wrong one. I'll bet they're around the same price, though.

I now know where I'm going to buy parts when I make my control arms!

-Mike

 

[JeepFreak21]

It doesn't even look like they sell it w/ the joint in there.

"This is a machined outer sleeve designed to fit the stock-style control arm bushing found in XJ, TJ, ZJ lower control arms."

 

[2xtreme]

Like RCP said there is no tube. There is a very thin walled sleeve that the rubber is pressed in to. That sleeve has to be pressed into a tube that is welded to the CA. RCP discovered, as I did, that the sleeve has two different OD's and that needs to be bored into the tube that gets welded to the LCA. Relatively speaking it was a PITA. I would have bought those if I could have especially seeing how I had to pay $25 for my bushings anyway.

that thin walled sleeve that the rubber bushing is pressed into must not be strong enough to weld to the new control arms then??

So you press that whole sleeve (with bushing) into a new tube? But is is difficult because that sleeve is not the same size diameter all the way across?

So with these new pieces you just press the bushings into them, and weld them to your new CA's? Obviosly welding without the bushings in them!!

Do I understand it right? kind of right?

Thanks for helping me understand.

Michael

 

[ZPD]

that thin walled sleeve that the rubber bushing is pressed into must not be strong enough to weld to the new control arms then??

So you press that whole sleeve (with bushing) into a new tube? But is is difficult because that sleeve is not the same size diameter all the way across?

So with these new pieces you just press the bushings into them, and weld them to your new CA's? Obviosly welding without the bushings in them!!

Do I understand it right? kind of right?

Thanks for helping me understand.

Michael

Pretty much.
Weld first then press in.

 

[2xtreme]

Thanks,

I will obviously have to take a closer look at the CA's I have.

Michael

 

[zjmikey]

I send VOnn and email and he sent me the pricing



10$ each..


pretty good price:anon:

 

[Jeff 98XJ WI]

For the guy that says Rusty's has these, how is one to know? His web site is so useless that I bet half of his products aren't shown. Jeff

 

[XJEEPER]

Good product, good source too. Carl and Vonski at RockLogic are cool dudes that know thier stuff. And they are locals too.......if you live near SLC...........

 

[crimsonride]

Wow, nobody's ever seen a barrel bushing and sleeve before? Mepco's had these for a long time now. That's where Carl and Von get them. You guys are right though, Carl and Von are some top notch dudes. They do great work, their honest, and they don't charge and arm and a leg. Guys like that are hard to find in the four wheeling industry.

 

[crimsonride]

There is a very thin walled sleeve that the rubber is pressed in to.

Just FYI, that rubber is vulcanized in the thin-walled sleeve, this is important to know. If you're using this for a rock buggy or a custom suspension, be carefull not to tighten the bolt that goes through the sleeve too tight. What happens is that the inner sleeve gets pinched tight and through the opperation and movement on the arm the rubber tears or breakes and deteriorates. Does this make sense?

 

[XJEEPER]

Murray Utah, Florida? Must be south of Murray.........

 

[Ed A. Stevens]

So who sells narrow loops with a centering wall to work with football shaped bushings cut in half (or do I still have to cut & weld, and turn the poly down, on my own)?

 

[ZPD]

Just FYI, that rubber is vulcanized in the thin-walled sleeve, this is important to know. If you're using this for a rock buggy or a custom suspension, be carefull not to tighten the bolt that goes through the sleeve too tight. What happens is that the inner sleeve gets pinched tight and through the opperation and movement on the arm the rubber tears or breakes and deteriorates. Does this make sense?

Yep I stand corrected. They are vulcanized in there. I remember that now. It has been a while since I built my long arms.
BTW, I knew you could buy the bushing I just never knew of a source to buy the barrel that gets welded to the tube.

 

[crimsonride]

Yep I stand corrected. They are vulcanized in there. I remember that now. It has been a while since I built my long arms.
BTW, I knew you could buy the bushing I just never knew of a source to buy the barrel that gets welded to the tube.

I didn't really want to correct you, just point out that the inner sleeve can't pivot within the rubber. Eagle fab makes those barrels for us.

 

[crimsonride]

So who sells narrow loops with a centering wall to work with football shaped bushings cut in half (or do I still have to cut & weld, and turn the poly down, on my own)?

Do you have a pic or something to describe this, I'm confused.

 

[KJR93XJ]

Need Metal

can anyone help i need the metal sleeve material, i have access to a lathe, just looking for some tubing to make it work. i have looke all over and asked many machine shopes. no luck so far help me out guys!!!!!!!

KJR93XJ

I'm really hurting for my new LCA's to be built

 

[RCP Phx]

I got mine from Modesto Steel(Calif)!

 

[mbryson]

It doesn't even look like they sell it w/ the joint in there.

I'm sure they would. They build MOST things custom and could easily do that.

I've made my control arms with parts from them.........hmmmmm....looking for a pic online...

These are kind of an experiment as far as the length and the location of the brackets. I've only changed things three times from that stage and will probably change things slightly again. It gets a little better everytime.

 

[ChuckD]

I'm not to sure about the hiems, but do you have any brake dive with the LCA mounts higher?

 

[mbryson]

I'm not to sure about the hiems, but do you have any brake dive with the LCA mounts higher?

I did have, yes. The ride was significantly better, however.

I'm now running a radius arm on one side (tied the upper mount on the pumpkin to the lower arm on the drivers side) and just a lower arm on the passenger. I now get brake 'lift', but just slightly. I moved the lower mount on the drivers side about 1" below the axle centerline and it feels fairly good. Brent Orton is running something similar on his long arm setup. I'm just missing about 20" of arm.......


I was pretty skeptical about the heims, but I've put about 5K miles on them and am pretty confident in them.