Overhead rifle rack in an XJ

DBenz said:
As for the guy from Texas, I'd expect that comment from you.

Only been here for 4 months, 2 more months for CWP.

I live in Kalifornia for 35 years and

AMERICA for 41.5 years. (My whole life as in American!)

So not much to do with your stereo type Texan sheit!

hinkley
 
Does it have to be in the overhead? What if you mounted it in the cargo area and used this: http://www.galls.com/style.html?assort=general_catalog&style=VP232&cat=557 to lock it with?

I am not sure I would want my AR in the overhead, it looks like it would be in the way.


Boy, I am sure glad that AW ban was in effect for the last ten years. Those pesky bayonet lugs and flash supressors sure were troublesome features! I bet Dan Rather has a great story about how there has been an increase in drive-by bayonetings since the evil George W. Bush let the ban expire, and has the documents to prove it.

News flash for you whiny liberals: The Senate let the bill sunset, not the President. If you really wanted it to be renewed, you should be complaining to Senator Kerry for not doing his job. Stop being sheep.......
 
I looked into the racks that mounted guns overhead and had two problems with them:

1. Most of my guns were too long to fit accross the roof.
2. The racks hung low.

I had planned to build one following the same concept but the guns would mount lengthwise. The hooks looked like a pain so I was going to notch the plastic trim and screw the cross bars (using two spaced about 24" appart) directly to the metal underneath. There are some nice ATV mounts that clasp the gun in pretty well and have retaining straps to keep them from sliding out. The head room can be partially avoided by mounting the guns down the center since it's the highest point.

I don't see a need for a lock since any type of rack can easily be ripped out if someone wanted the gun.
 
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RKBA said:
I bet Dan Rather has a great story about how there has been an increase in drive-by bayonetings since the evil George W. Bush let the ban expire, and has the documents to prove it.
 
Lincoln said:
I don't see a need for a lock since any type of rack can easily be ripped out if someone wanted the gun.

Yeah, the mounting of the rack is the weakest point; that's why I'm not convinced of any of the racks I mentioned in the original post. That's one reason I thought of just putting in a rollbar and getting a rack that mounted to that.
 
basalt51 said:
Ignorance is bliss isn't it? Well I guess in the case of guns ignorance just leads to whinning liberals. AR-15s aren't automatic unless modified and those modifications are illegal in every state without the proper permits. I don't know ANY gun ban advocate that, after they spent a day shooting with me, did think it was really fun. I CAN tell you of numerous people that wouldn't even touch a gun for years and after shooting with me for a while they have several guns of their own.

biscuitboy - it saddens me that this state is full of people like you. If you want to hunt with a bow then go right ahead. Why is it ok to use a firearm on boars but no other animal?

I don't really hunt, not enough to justify having firearms in the eyes of people like you that is (if thats even possible). I have 2 shotguns, a 45LC revolver, a mini-14 (might as well be an AR-15, oh and I bought my 30 round clip BECAUSE of the AW ban) a 30-30 levergun, a heavy barrel 22-250, and a sig 229, probably others I don't remember. I don't compete, I just like shooting my guns. Guess I'm some kind of militant freak huh?

basalt...i was just pokin' fun man. i dont care what you have or dont have, or what anyone else wants to do...but if i find a rifle mouinted in a car in my neighborhood i will do something about it. guns ARE fun TOOLS....i agree with you 100%. as for the bow hunting thing...sorry i'm a purist, i would use a knife but have you ever tried to grab a buck by the horns? honestly whats the skill in firing a bunch of rounds off when the true goal is to get close enough for "one bullit, one kill"? a semi auto for hunting is akin to spotlighting at night...whatever, i was really just halk joking anyways...
the boar has a thick skull and rounds sometimes bounce off...that in mind bring extra firepower or you will be the hunted.
i know that yo are no more of a militant freak than i am, but c'mon think a bit about the implications of a rifle in your car at ALL times and what you intend by taking it EVERYWHERE. i dont think any guns should be illegal, but i also see how many people are killed daily by them...so i feel like i should always recommend safety, skill, and common sense out of some sort of civic duty.
didn't mean to ruffle yer feathers. and that was my unprofessional opinion about the matter.
 
One thing that I did not see mentioned. As a lot of us wheel in and around state and national forests. You need to check the laws that apply to firearms within them. Last I checked any firearm was illegal to have in your possession inside either state or national forests or parks.
There is a substantial fine as well as jail time involved.
Had a friend that got fined 250 for having a rifle in the back window of his truck while loading a boat in a state park.
Timbo
 
Timbo said:
One thing that I did not see mentioned. As a lot of us wheel in and around state and national forests. You need to check the laws that apply to firearms within them. Last I checked any firearm was illegal to have in your possession inside either state or national forests or parks.
There is a substantial fine as well as jail time involved.
Had a friend that got fined 250 for having a rifle in the back window of his truck while loading a boat in a state park.
Timbo
state park and national forest = huge difference
Natl. Forest = open shooting (at least thats what the Contra Costa County Sherrif in CA told me) with a licened, regestered firearm..

ALSO - i was reading a post in which a person mounted a CB between the two sun visor clips, because the sun visor clops alread had holes and structure there. might run a plate between them and put a plate where the dome light mounts... and run the firearm front to back...
just gunpowder for thought...
 
Rebeldawg said:
DBenz said:
Prime example of why Bush shouldn't have allowed that atomatic weapon ban expire.
AR-15 are automatic? Hmmm...that seems strange?
Not if you don't know what you're talking about. Then, it seems oh-so-clear. :greensmok
 
Timbo said:
One thing that I did not see mentioned. As a lot of us wheel in and around state and national forests. You need to check the laws that apply to firearms within them. Last I checked any firearm was illegal to have in your possession inside either state or national forests or parks.
There is a substantial fine as well as jail time involved.
Had a friend that got fined 250 for having a rifle in the back window of his truck while loading a boat in a state park.
Timbo

Concealed carry means exaclty that, 'Concealed', here in Pa you can have someone get pretty pesky and complain if they see you carrying that gold cup in your shoulder rig. In my opinion, carrying a firearm is like having insurance, you may never need it but when you do you need it NOW, not in 3 days or even 30 seconds while you unlock it, load it and get it in battery. Having an unloaded and locked firearm, might as well just have a big club.
Personally I would never leave a gun visible inside a vehicle, first all the idiots, liberals and democrats that think it is illegal, or should be, will be calling the cops 'man with a gun in his jeep just pulled out of the parking lot' for starters, you really should explore the over head closed idea that runs from side to side or one that runs from front to back but make it thicker so that you can put some 'dummy' stuff to make it look like something else like for holding 3 lined up tissue boxes and sunglasses clips, something not worth stealing.
 
I guess I'm confused "The Colt AR15 is a lightweight, magazine-fed, air-cooled, semi-automatic rifle, designed to be fired from the shoulder and chambered for the 5.56mm cartridge. This weapon fires one shot per pull of the trigger."
 
Rebeldawg said:
I guess I'm confused "The Colt AR15 is a lightweight, magazine-fed, air-cooled, semi-automatic rifle, designed to be fired from the shoulder and chambered for the 5.56mm cartridge. This weapon fires one shot per pull of the trigger."
Good description of the AR-15. What part confuses you?
 
Rebeldawg said:
I guess I'm confused "The Colt AR15 is a lightweight, magazine-fed, air-cooled, semi-automatic rifle, designed to be fired from the shoulder and chambered for the 5.56mm cartridge. This weapon fires one shot per pull of the trigger."

You forgot 'gas operated'. ;)
 
Taking this part of the conversation to Off-Topic...meet me there.
 
Rebeldawg said:
So a semi-auto is defined as an automatic?

No... semi-automatic is semi-automatic. pull trigger, fires bullet, ejects shell, loads next round... ready to pull trigger again. Then theres Full-automatic... pulls trigger.. keeps firing till you either let off trigger of run out of bullets. An automatic weapon is any weapon that automatically unloads a spent shell and reloads itself with a new shell. underneath that heading is Semi and Full.
 
just a couple of questions from a gun ignorant canadian:

-why would you need a hunting rifle in your vehicle and within reach at all times?

-is it for protection or hunting?

-if it is for hunting, then why couldn't it be in a locked box in the rear cargo area and only when going hunting?

-if it is for protection, wouldn't it be difficult to withdraw, aim, and fire a rifle from within a jeep? especially if moving?

I am not taking any side in this conversation. I am just trying to understand where you are coming from.
 
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