Over 500 Posts??

[Tom R.]

This thread began on the wrong foot, so to speak. And these personal attacks don't help the cause either, by members and non-members. Regardless of jneary's attitude--not that many here helped the situation--he has been a valuable contributer to these forums. But this isn't about him. The call to action is for non-members who utilize these forums on a consistent basis to consider joining. No guilt trips involved either.

The bottom line is this: currently, there is no requirement to become a member to participate in most of these forums. That's fine. However, if you want to become a member and help support this organization and reap some additional benefits (product discounts, etc), then I highly encourage you to do so. Membership also allows you to have a voice (voting & otherwise), gets you involved in a chapter, gives you a much better sense of belonging, and helps support land use issues that affect our sport. You also qualify for leadership positions where your ideas and further involvement can be realized.

As for me, it's been a great experience and I've made many friends through the years. I wouldn't have it any other way. The dues I pay are small in comparison to what I've gained. So again, I encourage people considering membership to sign up, even if it's just for a year. If at the end of the year it doesn't float your boat, then that's fine. But I believe that those who activily get involved do find the benefits of membership to be worthwhile.

Tom

 

[8Mud]

Guilty, guess my throwing parts at it remark, was out of line, like most generalities. Guess I´m still a touch miffed, that the few times I have given my XJ up to a dealer, I gotten an arm long bill and most times ended up fixing the original problem myself anyway. When I tried to complain, they would always point to the diploma on the wall and tell me I don´t know what I´m talking about. Some of the stuff I´ve worked on, had enough wiring to wire a whole fleet of XJ´s.
But I guess I´m interested enough to want to learn more.
I get a kick out fixing a component instead of replacing it, figure I ought to know enough to have a chance at fixing it, at least enough to limp home, if it breaks down in the boondocks. Of course home here is the boondocks. :roflmao:

 

[Kejtar]

Damn is this thread starting to get crazy.... and it's turning out to a mud flinging contest on all sides.... so here's my take on this for what it's worth.
IMHO on the question wehtehr people have to join? No. Would it be nice if they did?? yes. Are there other avenues of getting information available here? yes... are they as convenient?? not always. Here not only you have a lot of people who can throw an idea/suggestion to a problem presented but you can also search for similar problems being discussed in the past. And if you think that there are other better ways of getting info, the question really is are you using to get info as well? I'm not saying that you should stop if you're not a memmber or pony up the membership $$ if you are using it, but I'm saying that that's not an excuse. Just as the "I have helped others I should get paid" is not an excuse. If you're hear that means you want to see this place stay up and grow and lets face it... it requires $$ to do so. So if you want to help keep going? join up. If you want to see lands stay open for access (whether you use them or not is not the question) join up. If you want to see vehicles that are capable of offroading nto be taken of our roads, join up.... So there are many reasons to do so and it is understandable that sometimes people don't have the $$ but anything else is just bs'ing about the issue. And if you don't feel like you need to join up just say so instead of saying that you should be excluded for one reason or another. This sounds kind of like a "guilty conciense (sp) syndrome.

 

[Glenn B]

One word: paragraphs!

I know you are in a hurry to make as many posts as possible, but damn. Your spelling is worse than mine. Do they let you drink at work too?

 

[Kejtar]

One word: paragraphs

nah... if they got so far.. they might as well suffer through a BLOB

 

[Ralph]

I think the whole point behind RevDen's post was that if you have as many as 500 posts, no matter your "contribution level", you are obviously getting something out of being here. Since you do get something out of the forum, you aught to think about joining. It doesn't hurt to pass the collection plate around every once and while. No one is forced to contribute, but if you can, please do.

For those of you who do contribute, thank you.

 

[CW]

Damn is this thread starting to get crazy.... and it's turning out to a mud flinging contest on all sides....

We just want another thread where somone has a breakdown, to laugh at. Especially since the last entertaining thread on PBB got locked.
Come on somebody freak out.! :gee:
P.S my membership is in transit by snail mail, at least it was last week.

 

[Kejtar]

I think the whole point behind RevDen's post was that if you have as many as 500 posts, no matter your "contribution level", you are obviously getting something out of being here. Since you do get something out of the forum, you aught to think about joining. It doesn't hurt to pass the collection plate around every once and while. No one is forced to contribute, but if you can, please do.

For those of you who do contribute, thank you.

yeah what he said

 

[hologram]

I'm not a member yet. I don't care If I don't get any help or tech support on the site. I still am planning to become a member (when I have money) (poor school boy\newly wed) This is a great org. and I would be happy and proud to be member of it.

 

[FarmerMatt]

Well... As some of you can see our members are very protective & enthusiastic about this club as am I. The key word here is "club". Most people find us by searching out tech info on XJ's. They stumble around the OE & Mod tech forums reading, searching, & asking questions. If that is all the relationship that a person wants with than that person shouldn't join. is far more than a few bulletin boards. is a community of car enthusiasts just like any other car club out there. If you come to one of our events you'll see how much more than a web site is. The beauty of this club is that you can be involved to any degree you wish. Most car clubs require that you join & participate right off the bat. It's either nothing or full emersion. This site allows for a range of participation from just lurking to digging into the meat of problems that others have. In essence it's a window into our club. That window doesn't show you all of this club & what this club can do for you though. It's just a taste. The real fun is our events & actual interaction between the members. If you think we're characters on the net you should see us in person... In the end it's just fun. Nobody should be out there bullying people to pay up. Somebody should join if they want to join. Ask yourself if you would miss this site if it weren’t here tomorrow? Would you miss the people who you interact with on the boards? If so than you may want to help keep the lights on & contribute. You never know, you may get more involved that you ever dreamed. I did.

Matt Andrew
VP

 

[Gil BullyKatz]

Aw hell.... I finally became a paying member after lurking here and the ole XJ forums just so I could hang out in the den....


oh.. and also because of a well placed guilt trip


My rig is crappy but it would be even more crappy if not undriveable for a lot of the tech hints here!

p.s. It's only $30... Cripes! I've saved a helluva lot more money by buying from other members....

 

[jneary]

im the only one at the time that would respond to the post and if defending myself is a crime then lock me up and throw away the key. it appears there are more cheapskates here and want free info from everyone than to pay for it, i just help provide it

 

[jeepguy97]

it appears there are more cheapskates here

Yea like the one who posted this. :looser:

 

[jneary]

Yea like the one who posted this. :looser:

you dont appear to be a member.

 

[red91]

Originally Posted by jneary

what i like is, all of you jeep owners who come to the dealer and help me buy my house, the 18 by 40 foot pool in the back yard and the lincoln in the garage. thanks again all of you loyal jeep owners.

I don't find alot of humor in this kind of statement.

 

[jneary]

Originally Posted by jneary



I don't find alot of humor in this kind of statement.

there was no humor intended, it was a statement to the "loyal" jeep owners that faithfully patronize dealerships and a word of thanks to them. that i what i like about jeeps all around.

 

[Glenn B]

You are not the only "dealer" tech here. There are a more than a few, however, that is not the point. Heck, I was a dealer tech for years... and I do not even venture in to the tech forums.... we have Ketchup and Birdie to spew what they "heard".

Join if you want. Do not join if the club does not offer you anything. From time to time, people that contribute financially may look down on those taking a free ride.

Either way, the decision is up to the individual. Just remember this is a club funded web site.

 

[jneary]

You are not the only "dealer" tech here. There are a more than a few, however, that is not the point. Heck, I was a dealer tech for years... and I do not even venture in to the tech forums.... we have Ketchup and Birdie to spew what they "heard".

Join if you want. Do not join if the club does not offer you anything. From time to time, people that contribute financially may look down on those taking a free ride.

Either way, the decision is up to the individual. Just remember this is a club funded web site.

i never said i was the only dealer tech. i only stated my opinion on paying for a memberhip. i noticed that there is over 1200 views to this post and nobody spoke up except me so i will be the wipping boy. however i dont ask for others technical help, so i have no real benefit, but i do enjoy helping others when i can. if you dont want me to help then maybe the members can put into a quote that you dont need my help, since you have the privelages of quotes

 

[jeepguy97]

you dont appear to be a member.

That is true, however, I am not making statements about how the other jeep owners on this site have helped me to get "rich" and have a pool in my back yard either. I am currently not the most wealthy person in the world and will become a memeber as soon as the money becomes available, until then though I try not to offend anyone here because I realize that I am not a member so I don't run around authoritating like I am.

THE POINT I (and the others here) AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT EVEN IF YOU WERE A MEMBER, YOU SIR ARE A POMPUS JACKASS.

 

[Glenn B]

i never said i was the only dealer tech. i only stated my opinion on paying for a memberhip. i noticed that there is over 1200 views to this post and nobody spoke up except me so i will be the wipping boy. however i dont ask for others technical help, so i have no real benefit, but i do enjoy helping others when i can. if you dont want me to help then maybe the members can put into a quote that you dont need my help, since you have the privelages of quotes

Do not play the martyr. This is not about *you*.
Speaking in general terms...