OK so I been told but - Currie QC sucks!

RWKHausSupply

NAXJA Forum User
Well I didn't know till after the order and payment, but Currie's quality control Sucks!

I have purchased Sooooo much jeep suspension stuff from Currie that I thought that they had to have just as good of axle's and housings and such. Well I was Sooo wrong. I have purchased and recommended Currie stuff to prolly a thousand people between, JA, Rockcrawler, Pirate, JU, Colorado, and on the trail and at meets. But I never had the $ to drop on a axle build.

I have a guy that I did a cage and seats for in a CJ and he told me he wanted front and rear axles new from someone. So we did the searching. Dynatrac was a little outa our price for the 60's, and tri county is just a POS company and MIT I have heard too much negative about. SO Currie being very local was our best choice, or so we thought.

We went in and sat down with a guy that seemed to know enough to get them in trouble and yet not big trouble at least. We ordered up front and rear HD large tube 9" 's. With axles (35sp rear, 31 front), their suposive high strength 9+ case and what they called good as new, used housing for the front, their big bearing new pinion supports, and yokes. The rest of the parts we ordered from PORC to save us about 700-800$.

Well the housings looks Awesome. I had a issue with the 9+ "race case" not fitting a 4.86 gear and Detroit, and looked for someone with enough experience to know what they are doing with a 9". I have done many many setups but never a 9" so I found a guy here on the board (name I will keep off here just cause) that seemed to get recommended and I found had all the tools for these.

Now to the reason for this post.

First thing we found was that the Currie 9+ "Race Case" was in fact Junk. The case was a Very poor casting to start with and even a Detroit locker will not fit without just as much or MORE grinding then a stock case, and a 4.86 gear wouldn't even fit with out that same amount of grinding. If this is normal then WTF does "race case" mean? Ever seen a street/strip car with less then a 4.86? typ not. Again WTF, they designed this case in house (or so its said) to replace the weaker and bad fitting stock cases, HA! yeah right.

Then on top of that it was pointed out to me that Currie didn't even use finished bolts! The bolts were cut down and NOT even chamfered at the tips! Again WTF.. This is their Top of the line case that they sell as their Strongest and best case!

OK OK on to the front. The stock case took a little massaging for the ring gear and Detroit, not alot but a little bit was necc. Less then what the Currie "race Case" would have needed. After everything was setup and the pattern was givin the OK, the pinion support was the only thing left to finish bolting down. The initial setup was done with 1 bolt in the pinion support for simplicity of removal for each adjustment.

That was when it was found that the pinion support had 2 of the 5 bolt holes lined up with the stock case. Yes with the pinion support rotated to where its designed to be bolted down the holes were not either drilled accurately or the case they Sold us was defective. After seeing the QC of the race case I bet its the pinion support being machined, off.

So the solution is to, this afternoon at lunch taking it all back down to Currie and seeing if they will make it right. That will be the test to see if they are a company or respect or crap. If they handle it like they should and take care of their crap then they might save some face with me, if not then I will never recommend another Currie product again.

So the reason for this being in Mod forum.

CAREFUL ordering from Currie and if you do MAKE SURE you can fit the junk together before you leave their showroom! DONT LEAVE thinking you have quality parts, Prove it to yourself first before leaving.
 
wow over 90 views and not one "I told ya so" yet? :jester:
 
well thier 9+ race case was I think 329, then the pinion support of I think 130, plus the setup fee I paid the member here to set it up.
 
PLEASE UNDERSTAND I'm just trying to help answer some questions not trying to start a fight. If the pinion support only has 2 holes lining up it is NOT rotated properly.

When we designed our case we also added material for strength. The 31 spline Detroit requires different clearancing than a 35 spline Detroit. The ARB requires different clearancing again and a factory posi different again. Different gear ratios are the same way. In order to accomidate all the different combos of diffs and gears clearancewise their wouldn't be much material left in the case for strength. For most diffs our cases work fine, for the 35 spline Detroit there is a little grinding to be done and for the ARBs there is so much grinding to make them fit in the casting in the 3rd bearing area it is just a pain (this would be the same for a low pinion also since the ring and pinion line up the same dimensionally). But why make the casting thin for the guy whos combo will work fine with the casting thick.

As a manufacturer we (Hi9 not Currie but them also) are put into a no win situation. We choose to only sell ours assembled to avoid this kind of post. BUT then we get bashed on for only selling them assembled.
 
truehi9 said:
PLEASE UNDERSTAND I'm just trying to help answer some questions not trying to start a fight. If the pinion support only has 2 holes lining up it is NOT rotated properly.

When we designed our case we also added material for strength. The 31 spline Detroit requires different clearancing than a 35 spline Detroit. The ARB requires different clearancing again and a factory posi different again. Different gear ratios are the same way. In order to accomidate all the different combos of diffs and gears clearancewise their wouldn't be much material left in the case for strength. For most diffs our cases work fine, for the 35 spline Detroit there is a little grinding to be done and for the ARBs there is so much grinding to make them fit in the casting in the 3rd bearing area it is just a pain (this would be the same for a low pinion also since the ring and pinion line up the same dimensionally). But why make the casting thin for the guy whos combo will work fine with the casting thick.

As a manufacturer we (Hi9 not Currie but them also) are put into a no win situation. We choose to only sell ours assembled to avoid this kind of post. BUT then we get bashed on for only selling them assembled.

Aww them aint no fightin words.. And thanks for the posting.

But the support is larger opening on the top ring gear side and drain back on the bottom. The 5 holes are Very close to lining up. It is poss (but tough) to get three bolts in and the fourth starting to make threads in the support due to being about .050 off I would say and the 5th about .125 off.

As for the clearancing. Well you would think that the ring gear would clear up to at least a 4.8's ratio? The carrier doesnt change the ring gear location? I could see the carrier clearancing being a necc after your posting, but not the ring gear?
 
as a side note I wont be able to get the buyer (I am only the builder) and the reciept over there now till wed. SO I will post up what they say on wed afternoon.
 
The Currie pinion support (and factory ones) seem like they have 1 of the 5 "bumps" where the bolts go that is more like a "v" shape than the others. That v goes to the upper right hole in the casting and the drainback bulge starts in the center and goes to the right. Both when looking at the case from the front.

The 9 inch Ford ring & pinion are different animals. Our 4.86 gears require slight clearancing while the 5.13s and 5.38 do not. When we order more 5.13s they will require some clearancing because we are going to have Richmond leave more material on the teeth for ring gear strength. The size of the pinions on the 9 inch seem less predictable than other diffs since the pinion offset is so much that sometimes different manufacturers use diffenent tooth counts to achive the same ratio.

We are most likely building a 7.00 for our unit. Richmond builds them with a 5-35 tooth count and some overseas manufacturers build them with a 6-42 tooth count.
 
Is the pinion support Aluminum or nodular iron? The info I posted was for the nodular Currie pinion support part # CE-4031C or their 9+ line part # CE-94031. I believe them to be the same part just different numbers since they have them under different lines.
 
Its a alum 9+ part they told us. Heres it is in the case still. See how close yet so far away it is from lining up?

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heres the back side of the other Same part numbered support. Isnt the larger opening the oil in and the smaller O the oil feedback port?

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I have only bought a complete axle from Currie, it was flawless and continues to perform with no issues after 100K miles.
Much better than the previous axle from a little shop in Louisville.

Rev
 
well as with most shops, time goes on adn the quality will either get better to build the repitation then it will get worst to build profits. I guess currie is on the later.

Your axle must be about what 5-6 yrs old?
 
I am sorry you had such a bad experience with Currie Ent. Come I and ill take care of you and see what we can do to make thing right for you. Our parts are warrantied against manufacture defect for life. If you have a problem we will fix it..

Speeking as a member of this and many other forums, I have noticed that people only post when they have a bad experience with a product. You hardly ever see a post that says " I went to..... and they were really cool and helped me alot. No matter what company it may be. I try not to post in defence of the company i work for because all it dose it make me a target for bashing. but when i feel that i can fix a problem one of our customers have i speek up. Defective parts happen, All Currie can do is fix it.

Chris 714 528 6957 ext. 104
 
well chris I think your the Salesman that sold us this stuff actually.

As for the never posting good. Here just a Very small portion of my praises of currie. Starting back in 02 with my first joining of the internet world.

From JA - user Robert
http://www.jeepaholics.com/support/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=5467&SearchTerms=currie
So Just spend the Extra 20-50 bucks and get Currie Arms and know that your dealing with a company that cares and will take care of any issue and IS NOT going to be gone in a yr to 20 years.

Rockcrawler - User lookin4fun_inca
http://rcboards.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5726004942/m/6571081071/r/3881076071#3881076071

Daym it pirate search is down and JU rebuilt their site recently adn lost all older post.
Search and see I always added to the currie in question post how well I liked thier jeep parts.

I will be in tomorrow at 2:30 to see ya Chris. I just went and used a uni-bit to enlarge two of the holes in the pinion support to at least allow me to have the rear assembled enough to do measurements. Even though the one that I did ass. is a 31sp and the race case is for the 35sp rear.

I would really hope to be able to exchange the 9+ case for a strange case.
 
Do a search.
We praise plenty around here.

We do, however, bash for poor english skills.

I do appreciate you and the guy from True Hi9 providing your opinions, though.
I wish you axle experts would be more active on our boards.
We ALWAYS welcome your opinions.
Thanks again.
 
Okie...Thats what im talking about..whatever!!.. The bashing is what keeps alot of people like me from posting.. You try to help and you run into a bunch of english teachers.
 
NRT_Chris said:
Okie...Thats what im talking about..whatever!!.. The bashing is what keeps alot of people like me from posting.. You try to help and you run into a bunch of english teachers.
Dude, that part was a joke.
 
NRT_Chris said:
Okie...Thats what im talking about..whatever!!.. The bashing is what keeps alot of people like me from posting.. You try to help and you run into a bunch of english teachers.


Okie Terry was just kidding, dude. :D











































You forgot to capitalize 'English'. :confused1
 
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