new rig (Black Betty)

My rig dropped about 1" with 500 pounds of concrete on saturday. which is a fraction of what I carry on the trail including coolers and camping gear. you will regret increasing lift up front once you load up the rig with all your stuff, people, and tire carrier and tire. I guarantee it.
 
My rig dropped about 1" with 500 pounds of concrete on saturday. which is a fraction of what I carry on the trail including coolers and camping gear. you will regret increasing lift up front once you load up the rig with all your stuff, people, and tire carrier and tire. I guarantee it.

Well it may be more like 2". I will need a small spacer at minimum. And i gave my old ones to a buddy.

Stiffer springs would be nice. The ones on it are pretty soft.

What spring rate do you guys with prothanes run? Is it better to run a softer spring and let the insert make up the difference. I will be running Bilstein 7100 in all 4 corners
 
Josh. I have some 3/4" spacers you can have. I had the same problem with my front springs feeling too soft. I was running Rubicon Express 4 1/2" springs, made the front feel too soft and unpredictable. I switched to BDS coils and I believe they have a 240 lbs/in spring rate. Feels much better now.
 
Josh 2" is still fine dude. Loaded it will br close to level. Load it up with weight and see where it sits
 
If betty needs another 2" just give it to her twice.
 
Josh. I have some 3/4" spacers you can have. I had the same problem with my front springs feeling too soft. I was running Rubicon Express 4 1/2" springs, made the front feel too soft and unpredictable. I switched to BDS coils and I believe they have a 240 lbs/in spring rate. Feels much better now.

Thanks Lou I'll take them!

I think I'll run these springs but will most likely swap them out for something stiffer.
 
Well it may be more like 2". I will need a small spacer at minimum. And i gave my old ones to a buddy.

Stiffer springs would be nice. The ones on it are pretty soft.

What spring rate do you guys with prothanes run? Is it better to run a softer spring and let the insert make up the difference. I will be running Bilstein 7100 in all 4 corners

PAC coils.

Available in rates from 130 to 250.

http://www.racingsprings.com/Jeep-Speed-Lift-Springs/sku/301

Available from $99 shipped at jegs.

We run 250 pound 4" coils on 4643.
 
I'd like to try those out. I think TORX used them when he revamped the Nail Salonas well.

Ive been thinking about trying the PAC coils as well. Wish they had a 5" coil. I could cut down some 6" ones , but that will mess with spring rate...
 
Get the 6" in the next softest spring rate, and it would give you roughly 5". ;)
 
Get the 6" in the next softest spring rate, and it would give you roughly 5". ;)

Or run a 4" with 2 coil isolators on top of it.

good call. either of those would work well.

So what do you think about getting the 220 6" and cutting off one ring at a time until I get desired height ? I am sitting at about 4"-4.5" of lift as it sits right now with the vehicle weight on it.
 
They are progressive with the soft coils at the bottom, so you'd be more or less ruining the function of the coil.

Myself, I wouldn't do it. Keep in mind each spring rate is going to give you a different ride height. The thing to do would be to get the sprung weights and you can calculate your ride height.

or just order the 250 pound coil. Your RE coils are 180 pound, so you're going to sit .75-1" taller with the same height coil at 250 pound.
 
They are progressive with the soft coils at the bottom, so you'd be more or less ruining the function of the coil.

Myself, I wouldn't do it. Keep in mind each spring rate is going to give you a different ride height. The thing to do would be to get the sprung weights and you can calculate your ride height.

or just order the 250 pound coil. Your RE coils are 180 pound, so you're going to sit .75-1" taller with the same height coil at 250 pound.

I am running the RE 5.5's cut down quite a bit. I thought RE 5.5s were 210 lbs and the 4.5's were 180 ?


I see those 250s are the only linear ones.

The 6" progressives -250 lb- look legit too. It would probably sit closer to 5" with the winch bumper and extra metal on the thing.
 
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Good info, mine has always been a bit soft RC 4.5 springs. Now with
cage seems to ride different too much weight. I think i am shopping for springs.
 
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