Need help guys finding the grounds for these lights

[winterbeater]

You have to stick the little screwdriver in from the switch side after the plastic plug assy is pulled off from the switch. After you get the little brass tang, the wire and brass crimped-on-connector will back out of the plug. You either have to look real close with a flashlight to see the tang, or else just try both sides until you hit the magic spot.

The red wire for the headlights will still be hot unless you pull that fuse.

 

[SINCITY192]

I disconnected the Battery while im doing this!

both the wires are in literally the same spot (hole) on the connector so could it still be a individual problem between the 2 wires

 

[SINCITY192]

ha ha ha very funny 88 wagonman and shorty very funny
but im too afraid of electricity to not disconnect the battery first
but thanks for the reminder!!!!

 

[winterbeater]

You disconnect the battery? But it's fun to see the sparks fly. That way you know you have juice. :flame:

 

[tugalo]

Did you notice any bare wires in the headlight switch harness after you unplugged it?

 

[SINCITY192]

the head light switch harness has very little slack something is holding it pretty tight up inside there! but from the slack i made cutting the plastic holder was enough to pull the head light switch wires down just to be able to cut and see and from what i seen no bare wire there but alot of it is in tape so ill eventually/ probably have to cut it down if the problems in that bundle!

 

[SINCITY192]

By the way I cut one of the wires, put the fuse in, connected the switch back and put key to on, pull the switch and fuse blew

do i connect the wire i just cut with the wire nuts............... and then proceed to the next one

 

[88 Wagonman]

By the way I cut one of the wires, put the fuse in, connected the switch back and put key to on, pull the switch and fuse blew

do i connect the wire i just cut with the wire nuts............... and then proceed to the next one

NO! wire nuts are for homes, not automotive electrical. Stop cutting wires, your digging yourself a hole. To splice the connection use a proper connection. I prefer to use solder and heat shrink, but most will agree that a simple crimp on butt splice is sufficient. If I use a butt splice, I use the ones that you crimp and then apply heat to shrink it to a watertight connection.

 

[SINCITY192]

you must not know the space im dealing wit here theres no room for all that kind of work!
but its ok to reconnect the wire and go on to the next dark blue one going into the head light switch

 

[88 Wagonman]

you must not know the space im dealing wit here theres no room for all that kind of work!
but its ok to reconnect the wire and go on to the next dark blue one going into the head light switch

yes, but don't cut the next one.

 

[SINCITY192]

i have too... this is part of all the eliminating the circuit..... I dont have room to move around the best i can do is cut the wire to eliminate that as a possibility

 

[88 Wagonman]

i have too... this is part of all the eliminating the circuit..... I dont have room to move around the best i can do is cut the wire to eliminate that as a possibility

:twak::nono::doh: No you don't! You haven't eliminated all of the possibilities yet. Did you disconnect the buzzer yet? Did you disconnect the wire under the steering wheel? I am sure I can find others.

 

[SINCITY192]

listen this is getting confusing because i was doing what winterbeater told me to do testing from the switch
now If there are steps you would like me to try after i fix the line i cut then we can try it but I'm just doing what experience jeepers tell me cause im not experienced enough yet im still learning
I was also told that if it was the buzzer then the fuse would blow with i pull the light switch is this true or not it makes sense!
where is the buzzer ill disconnect and try another fuse if i must!

 

[88 Wagonman]

Does your buzzer work? If so, then listen for it, and pull it from the connection. It plugs into the fuse box. If it is a chime, then it is a blue box like mine, if it is a buzzer it's there but I don't know what it looks like

 

[SINCITY192]

it buzzes when the doors open/n key in ignition but thats about it
i dont kno where its located but i think its a mechanism in the column not sure though

 

[winterbeater]

Don't reconnect the dark blue wire you already cut. Put a piece of tape on each end you cut to identify it for later reconnection. Then cut the other dark blue wire and retry the fuse. If the fuse still blows, your running lights are good and we move on to other things. If it was the buzzer, it would blow before your pull the headlight switch on.

 

[88 Wagonman]

it buzzes when the doors open/n key in ignition but thats about it
i dont kno where its located but i think its a mechanism in the column not sure though

It's not in the column. Put the key in the ignition, open the door and find it.

 

[88 Wagonman]

Don't reconnect the dark blue wire you already cut. Put a piece of tape on each end you cut to identify it for later reconnection. Then cut the other dark blue wire and retry the fuse. If the fuse still blows, your running lights are good and we move on to other things. If it was the buzzer, it would blow before your pull the headlight switch on.

:twak: There is not a lot of room to make a proper connection there, he said it himself. It's just going to create more problems for him down the road.

Mine blew when the switch was pulled so yes, it could be in the buzzer circuit. BTW I don't think the buzzer is the problem, but maybe something in the circuit.

 

[winterbeater]

It was a choice of cutting the wire, or getting the plug loose from the switch, pushing the individual wire out of the back of the plug and reconnecting the plug. That could break something anyway, so you take your chances. In the dark and cold, I think cutting is a viable option, especially if you haven't pushed wires out of connectors before.

I definitely agree to eliminate the buzzer circuits from the equation. The wiring diagram shows one buzzer on hot circuit all the time red/blue wire, and one on the running light circuit (dark blue wire). That could be the circuit causing the problem, and he will know more after he cuts that second blue wire.

 

[SINCITY192]

How and where is it? coming out of the switch?
I terrible at identifying these things