For anyone interested, I am going to do Clark's Summit on Sat, may 31st. It is a 31 mile trail that traverses the back side of Big Bear. Most of the trail is Scenic and easy with some moderate 4x4 sections, With one steep down hill. Portions of the trail include sections of Skyline Drive. According to my trail guide the roads can be difficult to find in areas which might make it fun. It says it takes 4-5 hours and starts off of hwy 38 in South Fork Campground, and has parking. Looks like a good trail for close to stock vehicles. Fun drive stop for lunch, enjoy the views. Might stay over in Big Bear and run John bull on Sunday depending on My 18 year olds willingness to watch our Dogs! Plan on meeting at 9:30am which would gets us going around 10:00.