Lowering Fuel Prices

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Copied from another forum. Lets give it a try and see if it works.

THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.30 PER GALLON.

I hear we are going to hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer, and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down?We need to take some intelligent, united action. The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read on and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $2.00 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $3.19 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50 - $1.75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace..not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How?

Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas p rices if we all act together to force a price war. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 =00) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reach es the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers.If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!
(If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. But I am . so trust me on this one.How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days !!!I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you!Ac ting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.

Keep it going.
 
nope its WAY easier than that--have a bill passed at the senate for the --frekin politicians an congress STOP IMPORTING OILFROM FRIKIN ARAB ASSHOLE COUNRIES AND STOP HORDING OUR OWN OIL SUPPLIES ,(Fu@& TERORIST COUNTRIES)!!!!!!!! that will stop the import tax quite a bit:wave:
 
Every year someone circulates this email.

Americans are entirely too self-centered to stop buying gas.
Americans can't organize anything across 250 million people that actually works.
The oil companies don't care. As long as you produce vehicles that get 14 mpg you're going to support them.
 
RedHeep said:
Every year someone circulates this email.

Americans are entirely too self-centered to stop buying gas.
Americans can't organize anything across 250 million people that actually works.
The oil companies don't care. As long as you produce vehicles that get 14 mpg you're going to support them.

Fine and dandy. A good copy/paste sure cant hurt though. ;)
 
Want to lower oil prices... Start drilling in Alaska... I guarantee you it'll lower prices... Show the Oil barrons that we are looking for our own and they'll drop the price in hopes we'll quit looking...

Otherwise you're wasting your time... Supply and Demand at it's finest.... and w/ all the money/power the Eco Freaks have we'll never drill in Alaska...

Oh yeah.. maybe we could put in a few more offshore wells of our own.. well that's not going to happen either.. just not aesthetically pleasing. We're oil dependent and I truly doubt prices will ever go down..
 
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markaboo929 said:
next time your at the pump look at the tax portion on them IF it is shown on the pumps...they are here in NC ,price would be half of what it is now!!!!

NC also has one of the highest gas taxes compared to other states, if i'm not mistaken.
 
Here's another solution..... live near the border of SC, GA or VA and buy gas from them with a slightly lower fuel tax, haha.
 
I already go out of my way to not buy from the "big name" stations and have done so all my life. but the sad truth is even the "no name" stations get their gas from the same refiners.

The congress / senate angle sounds good but as long as long a big oil lines the pockets of polititions any bill against the oil companies will have a VERY hard time passing. Even if a bill is passed to stop the tax cuts they get now, dont you think the oil companies will simply raise the price more to cover the extra taxes they are forced to pay?

Maybe if the Gov mandated a fair price for gas and levied fines on those over charging would work, but then again just try to get that passed. And even it that passed think about the fact that 2/3 of every barrel of oil is used to make various forms of plastics. If we get lower gas prices we will end up paying more for everything made with plastic (which is what like 90% of everything in todays world?)

Sad fact is as long as we use anything made with oil we are stuck.

Using corn based fules sounds good until you think about how the demand will raise the price of corn based foods. Just think of all the things that have some form of corn. It seems like almost every processed food has high fructose corn syrup in it.

So, whats the answer? I dont know :-( The only thing I can think is to lower the population of humans on the planet and stop compeating with each other to have more then the next guy.
 
ZacSquatch said:
Here's another solution..... live near the border of SC, GA or VA and buy gas from them with a slightly lower fuel tax, haha.
Another reason why i'm glad I've got a job now thats on the NC/SC border. Go half a block down the road, and gas is atleast 10 cents cheaper than it is in NC. :D
 
Let's think about his for a second.

1: We have a Texas oil man in the White House
2: We have been to war with an oil producing country TWICE
3: BOTH times there was a war with an oil producing country, a Texas oil man was in the White House
4: The price of oil just so happens to peak as the first Texas oil man is exiting the White house, then settles back to a more "normal" level afterward
5: The price of oil hits a peak just as the second Texas oil man is about to exit the White House

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I think not.
 
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markaboo929 said:
nope its WAY easier than that--have a bill passed at the senate for the --frekin politicians an congress STOP IMPORTING OILFROM FRIKIN ARAB ASSHOLE COUNRIES AND STOP HORDING OUR OWN OIL SUPPLIES ,(Fu@& TERORIST COUNTRIES)!!!!!!!! that will stop the import tax quite a bit:wave:
Horrible idea. Do you know how a free market system works. I'll give you a hint...keyword is FREE. You can't start injecting congress passed acts into the "free market" system to fix a problem. It doesn't work that way. :conceited That's why congress helping hurting mortgage companies is a bad idea. A free market needs to be free...it's NOT a "free until something bad happens and then congress bails ____ out-market"...

uncc civilengineer said:
Want to lower oil prices... Start drilling in Alaska... I guarantee you it'll lower prices... Show the Oil barrons that we are looking for our own and they'll drop the price in hopes we'll quit looking...

Otherwise you're wasting your time... Supply and Demand at it's finest.... and w/ all the money/power the Eco Freaks have we'll never drill in Alaska...

Oh yeah.. maybe we could put in a few more offshore wells of our own.. well that's not going to happen either.. just not aesthetically pleasing. We're oil dependent and I truly doubt prices will ever go down..
X 1,000,000,000 We have shown almost zero notions to OPEC that we are willing to provide for ourselfs so it will continue. No new refineries, no Alaska drilling, no increased Gulf of Mexico drilling, No drilling in the other reserviors that we have out west, etc., etc., etc....

Sooner or later people will realize that we need to supply for ourselves while looking for alternative methods. The Eco Freaks, as Chris said, need to do everybody a favor and go take a long walk off a short bridge.

Everybody should probably stop here before this turns into 482 pages of BS people start spewing out.
 
Georgia Mike said:
Let's think about his for a second.

1: We have a Texas oil man in the White House
2: We have been to war with an oil producing country TWICE
3: BOTH times there was a war with an oil producing country, a Texas oil man was in the White House
4: The price of oil just so happens to peak as the first Texas oil man is exiting the White house, then settles back to a more "normal" level afterward
5: The price of oil hits a peak just as the second Texas oil man is about to exit the White House

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but I think not.

Maybe we'll see.. but IMO that's supid logic... To be honest.. I'd rather pay more for gas than pay for every bum's healthcare in the US...

Supply and Demand... too much demand and too little supply... If we drill our own wells say maybe Alaska where there's over an estimated 10billion barrels of oil (Dem's stopping it) and cut our foreign dependencies by say 25% = more supply, and the oil countries would lower prices knowing we're looking for oil elsewhere..

just my opinion though.... :roll:

EDIT: I think it's something crazy like the last refinery was built in 1976... wow that's pathetic..

And I agree w/ the delete thread.. it'll go downhill fast once politics start mixing in...
 
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Oh yeah...and not to mention the fact that CHINA is using MORE oil than they ever have used in the past. That plays into supply and demand....but you don't ever hear about that.

The US was using approx 5% more in 2005 than in 2000. China, was using approx 50% more oil in 2005 than in 2000. Here are some facts according to http://www.swivel.com/data_sets/show/1003357

This is how much more oil is being used in 2005 than 1995.

Qatar 272% (that means it tripled)
Kuwait 215%
CHINA 206% (doubled)
Turk 190%
Ireland 166%
India 157%
Poland 149%
Saudi Arabia 149%
China Hong Kong 144%
Spain 137%
Iran 135% (hey, they've got to use something to build their nuclear weapons)
Singapore 134% (seems like the Far East is really using up a significantly higher amount of oil)
CANADA 126%
Brazil 121%
Mexico 120% (I guess they are trying to drive here instead of walk)

And NOW we finally come to big bad ugly USA...117%

Out of the 77 countries on that list, we are only 45th for increased usage of oil from 1995-2005.

Just wanted to give you guys some perspective.
 
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uncc civilengineer said:
Maybe we'll see.. but IMO that's supid logic... To be honest.. I'd rather pay more for gas than pay for every bum's healthcare in the US...

Was this directed towards me? If so, I've got news for you, I don't want to pay for every bum's healthcare either, but the sad fact is that most Americans are stuck in the rut of "Democrats vs. Republicans" and don't stop to think what's best for the country as a whole. They only think "I'm a Republican/Democrat, and that's who I'll vote for" without really stopping and listening to BOTH sides of the debate. Sure, nobody wants to support a deadbeat, but if that's what it takes to make the country better as a whole, that's what has to be done.

There are way too many single issue voters in this country, and that does us all a great disservice. I asked a guy around the last Presidential election time who he was going to vote for, and he said Bush. Now, don't get me wrong before I say what I'm about to say, but when I asked him why, he said "Because the Democrats are for making gay marriage legal!" So my obvious question was "So, what you're saying is that it doesn't matter to you if the government runs the country into the ground, so long a gay marriage is illegal?" He told me "That's not what I said", and I told him that it was, he just hadn't thought about it in that way before.

I personally think that partisan politics should be banned simply because it creates an "us vs. them" atmosphere, and no one wins. I don't think it will ever happen in my lifetime. The way it is now, the best candiate for the job of President may very well be overlooked because he doesn't want to affiliate him/her self with either party.

In short, your single issue rant about "pay more for gas vs. paying for a bum's healtcare" is moot in the grand scheme of things.
 
Yes it was directed at you... however you stated an issue associated with "republicans"... I stated an issues associated with some of the new "democrats"... It is a moot point you're right but no different than saying either Bush has caused our oil dependency/price increase...

Dealing solely with "oil" the fact is that there is an absolute ton of oil in Alaska.. who's stopping the drilling?
 
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uncc civilengineer said:
Yes it was directed at you... however you stated an issue associated with "republicans"... I stated an issues associated with some of the new "democrats"... It is a moot point you're right but no different than saying either Bush has caused our oil dependency/price increase...

Dealing solely with "oil" the fact is that there is an absolute ton of oil in Alaska.. who's stopping the drilling?

Tree hugging-Caribou screwing-Mindless bums!!! (Interchangable with "Hippie Liberals" which is interchangable with "Hippie Democrats")

Did I get it right!?!? Whats my prize! :party:
 
LOL, UNCC, I was simply making a point. If the oil baron in the White House was a Democrat, then I certainly would have said the exact same thing. I am non-partisan to the core. I think BOTH Republicans & Democrats have their strong points, but at the same time I have to look past that and look at how full of crap they both are at the same time.

To make it clear, I respect anyone's point of view regarding polical issues. We all are afforded the same rights to believe what we want to believe, and choose who we choose to represent us in office.

You guys have a good day, I've gotta go to work!

:wave:
 
Georgia Mike said:
LOL, UNCC, I was simply making a point. If the oil baron in the White House was a Democrat, then I certainly would have said the exact same thing. I am non-partisan to the core. I think BOTH Republicans & Democrats have their strong points, but at the same time I have to look past that and look at how full of crap they both are at the same time.

To make it clear, I respect anyone's point of view regarding polical issues. We all are afforded the same rights to believe what we want to believe, and choose who we choose to represent us in office.

You guys have a good day, I've gotta go to work!

:wave:

There you go!
 
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