Longarms (not what you're thinking)

Goatman said:
Just for the record, an XJ or TJ front suspension is a true 4 link, don't know what you mean by the "true 3 or 4 link" comment.

It's hard typing with a five month old on you lap...very rushed. :)

I meant a true long arm three or four link versus the normal short arm four link arrangement. My thought was the longer arms would require larger jacking forces in order to see the same affect in real life.

r@m
 
kristoffers said:
I still want to hear more about pros/cons of a 3 link setup like that from RockKrawler? I know, I should do some searching on the rest of the net... but the pros on NAXJA always seem to be able to distill it down so well for us common folk!

FWIW, geberhard on PBB just installed a RockKrawler setup on his friend's Jeep. He was saying that the kit was very well designed and seemed very well built.

I only mention it because the RK stuff has been flamed to death in the past because it was poorly designed/built junk (or so I've read). RK is under new management for the last year or more and has redesigned a bunch of their stuff. Search over in the Jeep section on PBB and you should get good info on that particular kit.

As always, FWIW, YMMV, etc. I am just regurgitating what I read and have no real experience with RK. My point is that you may want to discount some of the flames from the past regarding RK. Or not...

I kinda like the TNT mounts and bent radius arms as well. If I was interested in a long arm set up I'd take a long look at their parts. I went short arms with DBs because mine is 99.9% daily driver realistically - hell I can't even find time to install it let alone wheel it. :(

r@m
 
I just installed the RK kit on my XJ, still waiting for my steering and few other things to get it on the road, but I can say that this kit is VERY beefy!! I helped a friend fix the rear tri-link of his Gen1 style RK stuff(on his TJ) and saw the pictures for the problems he had with his LCAs(arms tearing apart) and there is NO WAY the new stuff will fail in the same way the old stuff did! The old stuff was junk, but the new style is very beefy and should hold up to anything i can throw at it!
 
The new stuff I've seen from RK looked pretty good. Their rear link/coilover kit is good stuff.
 
Kristoffers.....I just noticed you are in Phoenix. If you want to see what the RK kit rides like, I'll let you drive mine. Hit me back channel.
 
personaly - if i were to buy long arms - they would come from this company...
http://www.rockcontrol.com/Suspension/XJ.htm

i dig the unibody cast that comes with it, and am a fan of supporting small businesses...

also the full t-case skid and really beefy mouning locations would work for me...

still loss of ground clearance though...

that said - i run short arms in the stocl locations... at 6" lift... till i raise the axle end mounts about 2"...
 
XJ_ranger said:
personaly - if i were to buy long arms - they would come from this company...
http://www.rockcontrol.com/Suspension/XJ.htm

i dig the unibody cast that comes with it, and am a fan of supporting small businesses...

also the full t-case skid and really beefy mouning locations would work for me...

still loss of ground clearance though...

that said - i run short arms in the stocl locations... at 6" lift... till i raise the axle end mounts about 2"...

That kit looks like good quality, and plenty beefy. However, the loss of ground clearance is MASSIVE!

Like I've said before, getting hung up on a rock or ledge stops you on a rock trail way more often than a lack of traction. Unfortunately, those long arm kits appeal to the guys looking for a long arm kit, not to those looking to get the best performance out of their rig.
 
I have clayton arms. The crossmember is the same hieght of the stock one. Just the arms themselfs are lower. But the arms work like rock sliders. I have never got stuck on the arms themselfs. I have slammed the arms and the cross member, and everthing is still striaght. On the other hand, I have seen the drop brackets get a rig stuck. bump over something and then get hung on them if you have to back off. Just my 0.02. If you get caught, hit it harder.
 
ipkyss said:
I have clayton arms. The crossmember is the same hieght of the stock one. Just the arms themselfs are lower. But the arms work like rock sliders. I have never got stuck on the arms themselfs. I have slammed the arms and the cross member, and everthing is still striaght. On the other hand, I have seen the drop brackets get a rig stuck. bump over something and then get hung on them if you have to back off. Just my 0.02. If you get caught, hit it harder.

Hmmm...
standard

...can't go back and can't go forward, go figure.

Link if the pic doesn't work... http://fototime.com/{2057E90B-C80D-4C40-A366-C734E48AC63A}/picture.JPG
 
well i for one am still a big fan of the TNT kit... good clearance, good ride, super strong.

in this shot you can see the y-link:

DSCN5672.jpg


i'll be at ColoradoFest if anybody wants to see up close or go for a ride. ;)

terry
 
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