MrShaft696
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bandit455
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
I have dana 4.10's that came out of a buddies yj
they're in great shape.
I have dana 4.10's that came out of a buddies yj
they're in great shape.
altierior
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
yeah, Rich is like that. quite a perfectionist. he wants to be able to stand behind his work. he wants it perfect or he won't touch it.
yeah, Rich is like that. quite a perfectionist. he wants to be able to stand behind his work. he wants it perfect or he won't touch it.
bandit455
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
its understandable, but from my understanding, using used gears isnt a whole lot different, they can just take more time
but he's the pro.
its understandable, but from my understanding, using used gears isnt a whole lot different, they can just take more time
but he's the pro.
Andy in Pa.
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
Typically the "hang-up" with using used gears is that as soon as a new set of gears is installed and "used", it sets a certain wear pattern in the gear teeth whether they have been driven on for 500 miles or 50,000 miles. Once gears are removed, it is virtually impossible to re-set a set of used gears the EXACT same way as they were in the SAME axle, let alone a whole new housing.
An example... The gears that went in my MJ D44 were a used set from the XJ D44, and Dave at Full Circle told me this ahead of time, and he set them up as close to the old wear pattern as possible, but he said they will make noise. And they do "sing" a bit going down the road, but I went into it knowing that this could happen.
The very high rate of unhappy customers that come back to the shop where it was installed (complaining of vibes/roar noise/singing coming from the axle(s)) is why some shops won't touch used gears...
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Typically the "hang-up" with using used gears is that as soon as a new set of gears is installed and "used", it sets a certain wear pattern in the gear teeth whether they have been driven on for 500 miles or 50,000 miles. Once gears are removed, it is virtually impossible to re-set a set of used gears the EXACT same way as they were in the SAME axle, let alone a whole new housing.
An example... The gears that went in my MJ D44 were a used set from the XJ D44, and Dave at Full Circle told me this ahead of time, and he set them up as close to the old wear pattern as possible, but he said they will make noise. And they do "sing" a bit going down the road, but I went into it knowing that this could happen.
The very high rate of unhappy customers that come back to the shop where it was installed (complaining of vibes/roar noise/singing coming from the axle(s)) is why some shops won't touch used gears...
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bandit455
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
I got ya, I have heard that too, and it can eventually go away as a new wear pattern develops.
so dave at full circle will do used gear setups, if your understanding that they may not be perfectly silent?
I got ya, I have heard that too, and it can eventually go away as a new wear pattern develops.
so dave at full circle will do used gear setups, if your understanding that they may not be perfectly silent?
bandit455
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MrSimon
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
I'm kind of the president of the Dave-at-Full-Circle fan club, but I can guarantee you that he'll shoot straight with you, and you can trust what he says. Give him a call and talk with him for a few minutes - its rediculous how much he knows about Jeeps.
And he is usually really really fast - if he isn't too busy, he'll have your axles back in a few days.
One word of caution though ..... he has a way to get you to spend a lot more money than you wanted to. I now only have one kidney - but my Jeep is hooked up!!
I'm kind of the president of the Dave-at-Full-Circle fan club, but I can guarantee you that he'll shoot straight with you, and you can trust what he says. Give him a call and talk with him for a few minutes - its rediculous how much he knows about Jeeps.
And he is usually really really fast - if he isn't too busy, he'll have your axles back in a few days.
One word of caution though ..... he has a way to get you to spend a lot more money than you wanted to. I now only have one kidney - but my Jeep is hooked up!!
Andy in Pa.
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
Your right, it can eventually go away, but it can also get worse as a new pattern develops too.... there is no ryhme or reason to it, its just the risk you take with this sort of thing. You can hedge your bets though and take a very close look at the existing wear pattern on the gears. If the pattern looks good and doesn't seem to be too deep or indented into the teeth, you may just have a slight whine, but it will work perfectly otherwise. Take them into Shop class and see what Mr Mac thinks, he should have some experience with this too.
Full Circle did it for me, he has done quite a bit of work for me through the years though. The best I can tell you is give him a call...
Your right, it can eventually go away, but it can also get worse as a new pattern develops too.... there is no ryhme or reason to it, its just the risk you take with this sort of thing. You can hedge your bets though and take a very close look at the existing wear pattern on the gears. If the pattern looks good and doesn't seem to be too deep or indented into the teeth, you may just have a slight whine, but it will work perfectly otherwise. Take them into Shop class and see what Mr Mac thinks, he should have some experience with this too.
Full Circle did it for me, he has done quite a bit of work for me through the years though. The best I can tell you is give him a call...
TYphoon
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
Take a grinder, and grind in a special pattern into your gears so they will sing christmas carols to you. A guy at Half Circle did it for me.
Take a grinder, and grind in a special pattern into your gears so they will sing christmas carols to you. A guy at Half Circle did it for me.
MrShaft696
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
Just to let you know ive had gears done for my jeep and truck here http://www.mdracecars.com/
Fair prices, good know how, and he actually sold and installed used gears for me. They work on everything and anything.
Just to let you know ive had gears done for my jeep and truck here http://www.mdracecars.com/
Fair prices, good know how, and he actually sold and installed used gears for me. They work on everything and anything.
altierior
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
'god rest ye merry gentlemen' or 'grandma got run over by a reindeer'?
Take a grinder, and grind in a special pattern into your gears so they will sing christmas carols to you. A guy at Half Circle did it for me.
'god rest ye merry gentlemen' or 'grandma got run over by a reindeer'?
altierior
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
i want mine to break into the 'Hallelujah' chorus from Handel's 'Messiah' when i activate my locker
i want mine to break into the 'Hallelujah' chorus from Handel's 'Messiah' when i activate my locker
MrShaft696
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
My sit breaks into Slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
My sit breaks into Slayerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
altierior
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
yeah, i know, i heard it. OH GOD, it's HORRIBLE!
you do know that it's because of those used gears, right? :shhh:
yeah, i know, i heard it. OH GOD, it's HORRIBLE!
you do know that it's because of those used gears, right? :shhh:
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muduck18
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
give a call up to Storks automotive in bernville
http://www.storksauto.com/index.php/about-storks-automotive
Gene doesn't do much jeep work any more, and kinda specializes in plows but they have a huge history of jeep work, and is the one shop I have ever let touch my jeep..
but even though they mostly do plows now, they might still squeeze a jeep in and its worth asking seeing as this would be a 'slow' time for plows.
give a call up to Storks automotive in bernville
http://www.storksauto.com/index.php/about-storks-automotive
Gene doesn't do much jeep work any more, and kinda specializes in plows but they have a huge history of jeep work, and is the one shop I have ever let touch my jeep..
but even though they mostly do plows now, they might still squeeze a jeep in and its worth asking seeing as this would be a 'slow' time for plows.
bandit455
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
Mac semi thinks I should just do them myself haha
but ya, im gonna bring the gears in and show him too.
I guess I will give Dave at full circle another call, and tell him andy sent me haha.
Mac semi thinks I should just do them myself haha
but ya, im gonna bring the gears in and show him too.
I guess I will give Dave at full circle another call, and tell him andy sent me haha.
bandit455
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
being a highschool kid, this cant really happen to me, since i have NO money to begin with.
being a highschool kid, this cant really happen to me, since i have NO money to begin with.
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Re: NAC Lots-O- Posts Thread-Part Deux
well if you sell a kidney that'll solve that problem!
well if you sell a kidney that'll solve that problem!
bandit455
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well what do they go for these days, maybe I wil do that instead of college loans
but ya, just got off the phone with dave, he wants 300 an axle, out of the jeep.
guess that is what happens when you mention andy's name hahahahaahahahahaha
gotta run that by dad...
well what do they go for these days, maybe I wil do that instead of college loans
but ya, just got off the phone with dave, he wants 300 an axle, out of the jeep.
guess that is what happens when you mention andy's name hahahahaahahahahaha
gotta run that by dad...
