Is the Koran a 'holy' book?

If you're white you can't shoot anyone except another white guy without it being classified a hate crime, and even then that white guy better be straight or that's a hate crime too.

;)

That wasnt supposed to be applied to people. I was refering to the Koran he was shooting. Let my rephrase that to say "any inanimate object"
 
Get prosecuted? Where the hell do you live? You can shoot what ever you want in America.

Check and mate.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/03/03/2008-03-03_pace_university_student_who_dumped_quran.html

Pace University student who dumped Qurans in toilet gets community service

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Monday, March 3rd 2008, 4:45 PM

A former Pace University student who twice threw copies of the Quran into a toilet at the school after disputes with Muslims pleaded guilty Monday to disorderly conduct in connection with the incidents.

Stanislav Shmulevich, 24, pleaded guilty as part of a deal in which he must do 300 hours of community service. He has completed about 80 hours of the service at a hospital, his lawyer said.

Shmulevich, of Brooklyn, admitted he tossed the Muslim holy books into toilets at Pace on Oct. 13, 2006, and Nov. 21, 2006. A criminal complaint says the Quran that was recovered in the October incident "was covered in feces."

In both cases, a teacher found the books in a men's room on the second floor of the school's main building in lower Manhattan.

Muslims consider the Quran a sacred writing that contains the direct word of God, and desecrating it is seen as an offense against God.

Detective Faisal Khan, who prepared the complaint, said Shmulevich told him "he committed the acts out of anger toward a group of Muslim students with whom he had a recent disagreement."

Shmulevich, a business major and immigrant from the former Soviet Union, initially was charged with two counts of criminal mischief as a hate crime. The charge is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison.

His lawyer, Glenn Morak, said he believed the disorderly conduct plea was an appropriate disposition.

"There was no hate crime here," Morak said. "He accepts responsibility, and he is repentant."

Shmulevich, the lawyer said, is no longer at Pace, which has about 14,000 students on its campuses in New York City and Westchester County.
 
Let me also comment on the tactics used by terrorists in the middle east. I understand that they would do anything to defend what THEY believe in. How ever i do think it is very wrong that they take advantage of our decency. They plague our weak spots. They hide in Mosques because they know they wont be destroyed. They hide behind women and children because we wont shoot them. Its like having a teenage girl beat you up. They can kick the shit out you and you still probably wont fight back.
The point is that IF we wanted to, we could blow up everything living thing on that side of the Earth, but we choose not to. Mainly because we would like to spare as many non-combatants as possible.
So honestly if we wanted to secure America completely, we could. The sad part is that we would kill many innocent people in the process.
 
Good article, however it says he got charged with "disorderly conduct". Mainly because he threw books down the toilet. IF he threw ANY OTHER book down the toilet i suppose he could have gotten a similar charge, because that in itself is illegal. The fact that he did inorder to offend someone made it a hatecrime.
 
Let me also comment on the tactics used by terrorists in the middle east. I understand that they would do anything to defend what THEY believe in. How ever i do think it is very wrong that they take advantage of our decency. They plague our weak spots. They hide in Mosques because they know they wont be destroyed. They hide behind women and children because we wont shoot them. Its like having a teenage girl beat you up. They can kick the shit out you and you still probably wont fight back.
The point is that IF we wanted to, we could blow up everything living thing on that side of the Earth, but we choose not to. Mainly because we would like to spare as many non-combatants as possible.
So honestly if we wanted to secure America completely, we could. The sad part is that we would kill many innocent people in the process.


Read the thread. Then reply.

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showpost.php?p=244196536&postcount=34
 
Ouch EcksJay... Playing the State Card ehh. Lets not turn this into a flame war, I would rather have a serious talk about foreign policy in the middle east, than play games with you. Why dont you get back to the topic.
 
And cal:
How does quoting somthing i already said make a point?
Atleast type some commentary to what you are thinking so i can understand your possition on this topic.
EDIT: o that is really cute. Edit my quote for fun? Well im going to go and try to have a semi-intelligent conversation. Why dont you go back to your corner and attempt to keep your last braincell from dying of loneliness. K?
 
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Ouch EcksJay... Playing the State Card ehh. Lets not turn this into a flame war, I would rather have a serious talk about foreign policy in the middle east, than play games with you. Why dont you get back to the topic.

I'm not apologizing. It was just a creative way of asking you to explain. :gee:
 
And cal:
How does quoting somthing i already said make a point?
Atleast type some commentary to what you are thinking so i can understand your possition on this topic.


Again. READ and then reply. I edited the quote to make a point. Its subtle, but eventually you will figure out you need to read the posts and not browse them before spouting off dribble.
 
Well cal, i guess i apologize for not realizing that you would play childish games with me.

And EcksJay, i wasnt asking for one either, i just thought you were trying to be a dick.
Maybe both of you should aks me to clarify instead of beating around the bush.
 
Clarify?

You're blinding repeating arguments that have already been addressed and shot down in this thread.

Whats to clarify?
 
Clarify?

You're blinding repeating arguments that have already been addressed and shot down in this thread.

Whats to clarify?
Well if you feel that what i have said is repetitive, please inform of that next time.
Isnt that why this thread was here? To argue our positions about this topic?
 
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