Iron rock offroad long arm upgrade

[kastein]

yeah, bring spare shocks, driveshaft, ujoint, and dana 30 pinion yoke and go for it! Hope your buddies don't mind you being a trail tampon when your shit breaks in front of them for a reason you were warned about

 

[chedisme]

when my bolt failed it rotated my pinion up and broke my front ujoint on my front Dshaft.

it was the first time I wheeled it since building it, 5 min into the trail.

 

[Mr.Smith]

I have been lurking on the forum for awhile now, I just recently picked up a jeep for a build. I was strongly considering purchasing the IRO Long arm kit as the price point seemed good, however, I had only briefly began to research my possibilities. After reading this thread, I 100% will not be purchasing the kit. I see both sides of it, those that have it and have had no issues are very happy with it, however, on the flip side, I can see how it could potentially be part that fails and leaves mass destruction in its wake. Maybe you get lucky and it never breaks, or maybe it does break but does so in a fortunate manner allowing for a trail side repair, But on the down side it could fail and do so in a very bad way, and I wouldn't want to be a part of that. Knowing that a bad failure would inevitably cost me more than having just saved more money and went up in quality. This kit would probably work great for many folks without issue, but I like peace of mind and this is a potential weak point I don't personally wish to have issues with. I really have no reason to even post my thoughts but not posting because I have no relevant and useful information has only led to me having virtually no posts. So this is an effort to increase said post count by one. Yep.

 

[chedisme]

I have been lurking on the forum for awhile now, I just recently picked up a jeep for a build. I was strongly considering purchasing the IRO Long arm kit as the price point seemed good, however, I had only briefly began to research my possibilities. After reading this thread, I 100% will not be purchasing the kit. I see both sides of it, those that have it and have had no issues are very happy with it, however, on the flip side, I can see how it could potentially be part that fails and leaves mass destruction in its wake. Maybe you get lucky and it never breaks, or maybe it does break but does so in a fortunate manner allowing for a trail side repair, But on the down side it could fail and do so in a very bad way, and I wouldn't want to be a part of that. Knowing that a bad failure would inevitably cost me more than having just saved more money and went up in quality. This kit would probably work great for many folks without issue, but I like peace of mind and this is a potential weak point I don't personally wish to have issues with. I really have no reason to even post my thoughts but not posting because I have no relevant and useful information has only led to me having virtually no posts. So this is an effort to increase said post count by one. Yep.

best first post ever.

 

[CTeunuch]

Anybody with a welder can build a quality suspension with much larger parts, but what does that have to do with a bolt on entry level kit? Nobody said it was the best thing ever, or the be all end all kit. If you want an entry level long arm at a very good price that rides very well on the road, works great on mild to moderate trails, and flexes well, there's nothing wrong with this kit. If you want to run the king of the hammers, I'd look in to a whole slew of beefier parts, from frame plating to axle upgrades.

This is the best response to this thread.

I read this whole thread on the toilet, now my ass is numb. Damn you guys.

why cant these dumb threads just die?

IRO LA threads, are one of the most annoying things on the internet.

Want me to un-numb your butt?

yeah, bring spare shocks, driveshaft, ujoint, and dana 30 pinion yoke and go for it! Hope your buddies don't mind you being a trail tampon when your shit breaks in front of them for a reason you were warned about

Of all the people on the planet to talk about a trail tampon...

 

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

For the record. I never said I would choose this kit OVER Clayton's, full traction, rock-krawler.. Etc

I love my Clayton's kit. It's pure beef, and I trust it to outlast my jeep by far..

Simply put, I am just stating I have watched the IRO kit work great for many, many people for years. With Zero qualms. The cross member is a beautiful design with adjustable height for t-case drop. Arms are super beef ect.. And on a budget built jeep I would choose IRO long arms over any other $500-600 kit..



A lunchbox locker and IRO long arms, are not the same as Clayton's and a Detroit.

 

[kastein]

Of all the people on the planet to talk about a trail tampon...

hey, I was gonna just stuff the shaft back in and leave the balljoints alone, and it would have been fine, but all you assholes insisted on me actually fixing it :dunno:

I think I may have even said yeah, just go around me, I'll fix my shit and get out of here myself. Not sure.

(yeah, that was more of a "do as I say not as I do" comment I guess)

 

[ktm racer 419]

Of all the people on the planet to talk about a trail tampon...

both times I've wheeled with you, you were also the one who broke the most, even Ken did more shit than you in his stock xj the last time and drove home!

 

[CTeunuch]

hey, I was gonna just stuff the shaft back in and leave the balljoints alone, and it would have been fine, but all you assholes insisted on me actually fixing it :dunno:

I think I may have even said yeah, just go around me, I'll fix my shit and get out of here myself. Not sure.

(yeah, that was more of a "do as I say not as I do" comment I guess)

Yeah those ball joints were fine:shiver:

both times I've wheeled with you, you were also the one who broke the most, even Ken did more shit than you in his stock xj the last time and drove home!

Hey, I break shit, but I never block the trail, that's Ken's specialty.

 

[kastein]

Yeah those ball joints were fine:shiver:



Hey, I break shit, but I never block the trail, that's Ken's specialty.

quick release balljoints bro, instead of destroying a balljoint when you pop an axleshaft and get unlucky, they come out and you just slide them back in.

It's REVOLUTARY like CASTER ADJUSTERS

 

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

quick release balljoints bro, instead of destroying a balljoint when you pop an axleshaft and get unlucky, they come out and you just slide them back in.

It's REVOLUTARY like CASTER ADJUSTERS

Alloy shafts are stronger, and tube sleeves/outter tube seals "help" prevent ball joint damage incase of U-joint failure...

But what do I know.. Me and my IRO pimpers don't actually wheel...:jester:

 

[VAhasnoWAVES]

Me and my IRO pimpers don't actually wheel...:jester:

you put it on the internet. it must be true.

/thread.

 

[kastein]

Alloy shafts are stronger, and tube sleeves/outter tube seals "help" prevent ball joint damage incase of U-joint failure...

But what do I know.. Me and my IRO pimpers don't actually wheel...:jester:

I'm not dumping money into my d30, there is a kingpin ford d60 sitting in the yard that needs more love than the 30 does.

My current d30 is in this picture, from the previous owner:

It came to me with a lot of camber (visible in this picture... before that landing!), has had multiple sets of balljoints in it since then, had to be BFHed into submission to avoid wearing tires unevenly.

I am not spending money on it, I'll keep sticking a junkyard shaft in it every couple months when I blow one up doing something dumb and then replace it when I'm ready.

 

[DeftwillP]

here is the problem.

when that bolt fails, you are going to loose your driveshaft and shocks

and steering and trackbar and coils and clean underbritches

 

[NW-ZJ-SCOTT]

I'm not dumping money into my d30, there is a kingpin ford d60 sitting in the yard that needs more love than the 30 does.

My current d30 is in this picture, from the previous owner:

It came to me with a lot of camber (visible in this picture... before that landing!), has had multiple sets of balljoints in it since then, had to be BFHed into submission to avoid wearing tires unevenly.

I am not spending money on it, I'll keep sticking a junkyard shaft in it every couple months when I blow one up doing something dumb and then replace it when I'm ready.

Wait. So you jump a limpdick30 intrussed, unsleeved.. And have no problem replacing ball joints on the trail due to being a Cheapass...

Yet, those with budget built XJs with mildly built Dana 30s and IRO long arms are the ones to watch out for?

Did I miss something?

 

[rockclimber]

Wait. So you jump a limpdick30 intrussed, unsleeved.. And have no problem replacing ball joints on the trail due to being a Cheapass...

Yet, those with budget built XJs with mildly built Dana 30s and IRO long arms are the ones to watch out for?

Did I miss something?

yes.... you missed that the picture was from the PO


fail.

 

[kastein]

Wait. So you jump a limpdick30 intrussed, unsleeved.. And have no problem replacing ball joints on the trail due to being a Cheapass...

Yet, those with budget built XJs with mildly built Dana 30s and IRO long arms are the ones to watch out for?

Did I miss something?

yeah, the "previous owner" part. That's ktm racer 419's last XJ right before he swapped his 44/60 under it - I guess he felt like airing it out a few times without worrying about wrecking his nice axles. I don't really jump my jeep, it would break in half from rust :gee:

Balljoints are $45/side, one set I replaced after putting 30k miles on the (used and abused by previous owner) axle DDing it. The other I had no choice because I popped a set when a shaft exploded... no shops were open so I actually ended up putting a set of used balljoints in it. That was incredibly ghetto but got me home.

 

[ktm racer 419]

My current d30 is in this picture, from the previous owner:

you're welcome

that was in my buddies backyard, if it broke, we drag it to his garage and fix it from one of the many parts jeeps he had. That was a tabletop jump too, real easy on the rig.

I had no problems getting more air than that with significantly harder landings on my trussed 44 and custom 3 link, 6 hours from home.

 

[zachandandy]

So the same guys preaching to spend the money on the most heavy duty parts and do it right the first time don't? You mean to tell me you guys run known weak links just to get out and wheel? After reading your posts, we were all ready to park our jeeps in fear and wait until we could afford all the most hardcore parts.

 

[ktm racer 419]

So the same guys preaching to spend the money on the most heavy duty parts and do it right the first time don't? You mean to tell me you guys run known weak links just to get out and wheel? After reading your posts, we were all ready to park our jeeps in fear and wait until we could afford all the most hardcore parts.

I feel safer running stock upper control arms with 2 bolts, than a more rigid arm running one bolt.