Iron Rock Long Arm Upgrade

And here I thought we were finally going to have a good conversation with *real* numbers and facts, instead of a bunch of circumstantial evidence and weiner-wagging.

Y'all started the bit about bolt strength, not me. Sadly it seems that no one ever wants to continue down that road once numbers come into play though. :(
 
s14unimog said:
Ya know what fine. I give up, this is going no where. I don't work for IRO and have nothing to gain by defending their product. It seems this conversation is evolving into a more heated debate anyways. I appreciate the time you took to explain this to me. I've got the three link under my truck on 32's and have done mild off roading with it for a little more than 8 months now (I don't exactly live in Utah). As I continue to do wheeling trips I will observe it for myself under real world experiences. I originally spoke up in this thread to bring to light the problem I see with the loading capacity of the single upper bushing but that was over looked and I fell back into the topic that has kept this thread alive.

building a rig, wheelin a rig, and breaking a rig is what this hobby is all about. I'm sure I'll destroy many other components on my truck but this conversation has no end. Under the right circumstances any component will fail.

As many have requested, lets just let this thread die already.

btw, you have a badass XJ.
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IRO's kit is not a three link.

:D
 
vetteboy said:
And here I thought we were finally going to have a good conversation with *real* numbers and facts, instead of a bunch of circumstantial evidence and weiner-wagging.

Y'all started the bit about bolt strength, not me. Sadly it seems that no one ever wants to continue down that road once numbers come into play though. :(
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:moon:
 
Great Thread. I wanted to learn about lifts/LA Kits for my XJ, ending up learning about bolts. I am sure there are engineers amongst NAXJA members or at least machinists that work closely with engineers that can explain all this.
I just have one question for members who are actually using this Long Arm kit/lift on their XJs for at least a year and go out offroading. Did any of you experience that 10mm bolt shearing?
 
I just picked up this kit pretty cheap, used, Impulse buy... Didn't read the thread before hand, didn't realize there was one. Call me stupid. Bought it from 2doorXJ and he has pics in in this thread of the lift I bought with a damaged camber adjuster. He lied to me about the kit I specifically asked him if he had any problems with it. He said no gave me a differnt reason for swapping it.

Instead of all the arguing why doesn't someone show how they modified the uca mount to accept the larger 5/8" bolt? How hard can it be. It seems this is the biggest complaint. I have new bushings for the re-geared HP D30 replacing my LP in my 2000.

Can I drill out the sleeve inside the bushing or is there another bushing with a larger sleeve I can order? once my camber is set with the alginment i will just drill out that spot on the adjuster for a larger bolt I wouldn't be able to adjust it then but hey is this much different than stock you need new shims to re adjust it stock so why not just buy the new adjuster and re drill it if your out. Doen't seem like an expensive part. Any info or ideas would be appreciated.

Anyone lop off the upper link with the camber adjuster and weld or fab an adjustable system?

Anyone have problems with the axle tubes twisting in the housing? you guys have me worried to install this kit but hey I'm thinking it can't be two hard to solve the problems by modifying the kit if they even are problems? Has anyone broken the 10mm bolt?

Maybe Iron Rock has already come up with solutions to these problems gonna call to ask? Not sure they will support a used kit.

Maybe this is mostly hearsay!

I have no intention of jumping my XJ!!!:roll:
 
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Get ahold of Andy at IronMan4x4fab and ask him if he can supply you with a bushing that accepts a larger bolt. He has helped me fit my trackbar using custom sized sleeves and has a variety of durometer bushings to choose from. I tried to drill out the stock one before and use a bigger bolt but couldn't do it with the rubber causing issues and the heat would melt the rubber.

RockKrawler also has an upgraded upper bushing kit.
 
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its pretty easy...
1. you find the hole that you want to take a bigger bolt
2. find a drill and a drill bit of appropriate size
3. drill holes
4. install bolts.



whoever was having problems "melting" the bushings are you XXXXing high or retarded? you are supposed to use a drill bit, not a XXXXing torch. there is no way a drill bit can produce enough friction to melt those bushings, hell if that were so, the damn control arms would melt them just everyday driving the thing... :facepalm:
 
rockclimber said:
its pretty easy...
1. you find the hole that you want to take a bigger bolt
2. find a drill and a drill bit of appropriate size
3. drill holes
4. install bolts.



whoever was having problems "melting" the bushings are you XXXXing high or retarded? you are supposed to use a drill bit, not a XXXXing torch. there is no way a drill bit can produce enough friction to melt those bushings, hell if that were so, the damn control arms would melt them just everyday driving the thing... :facepalm:
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Uhh I was and I don't appreciate your "retarded or high" comments. That is uncalled for. You having a bad day or something??
Have you ever tried drilling out a stock sleeve that's encased by rubber?
 
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rockclimber said:
its pretty easy...
1. you find the hole that you want to take a bigger bolt
2. find a drill and a drill bit of appropriate size
3. drill holes
4. install bolts
whoever was having problems "melting" the bushings are you XXXXing high or retarded? you are supposed to use a drill bit, not a XXXXing torch. there is no way a drill bit can produce enough friction to melt those bushings, hell if that were so, the damn control arms would melt them just everyday driving the thing... :facepalm:
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EDIT: had to check first... nominated.

muddeprived said:
Uhh I was and I don't appreciate your "retarded or high" comments. That is uncalled for. You having a bad day or something??
Have you ever tried drilling out a stock sleeve that's encased by rubber?
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ya gotta back mud on this one.
try drilling a stock UCA bushing, then come back and admit your ignorance.

"there is no way a drill bit can produce enough friction to melt those bushings, hell if that were so, the damn control arms would melt them just everyday driving the thing"
did you put any thought into that sentence, or was it one of those "not gonna think, just gonna type" things that people do.

do you understand where the heat comes from when drilling?
do you understand a bolt doesn't spin in the "damn control arms"?
do your shoes have velcro "laces"
 
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rockclimber said:
whoever was having problems "melting" the bushings are you XXXXing high or retarded? you are supposed to use a drill bit, not a XXXXing torch. there is no way a drill bit can produce enough friction to melt those bushings
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Hi, have you heard of physics? :conceited
 
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