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. You may not be able to afford to eat out at Applebees, but you're gonna eat out.


More people need to eat at applebees... preferably the one in Munster IN, sit with Mary and tip her well. :D
 
LOL @ sean.


seriously though, I simply have no interest.

I am a selfish human being. I am self aware enough to know this. I like to do what I want, when I want to do it. I also have no emotional attachments to children.

You know when people see a newborn and they all go "oooo, he/she is soooo cute"
I don't have that reaction. I am Mr. Spock, it's all logic up in this bitch, logically I don't see why anyone would want to have children in our society. Besides, there's too many people on this planet anyway.

We'll just say that I am a unique individual in my thinking. I rarely find someone that thinks in the same manner, and I only occasionally find someone that follows my thoughts. I am an acquired taste.

I told my wife we could adpot a child, but the minimum age is 5, and they have to speak, understand logic, and be housebroken.


I fully get what you are saying and the wife and i have the talk many times. we have often said that we were not sure on the kid thing. having money and free time to do what ever was pretty nice idea. lots of people said that we were selfish and how a kid is so much more important than any of that. I said how would something i don't have even compare to what a do have.

the decision to have a kid was finally made couple years later when both of us decided that not having a kid is probably awesome all the way up until the point when your older and then its to late to have a kid.
meaning being 20-50 with out kids is probably cool but then when you start getting old and alone having a son or grandson to come help hang up your xmas lights would be nice.

so, we were on the fence for a while and decided to pull the trigger
 
he should let me wheel it.

I'll take care of those "first dent" jitters.

I don't think he cars about dents, he said it was wheeled and has scratches and dents already. He wants to wheel.

As for kids, I want two, one of each when I get married. I will fight tooth and nail to have Charley as a name for the boy (first or middle) because it was my grandpa's name and I miss my grandpa a bunch. Plus I am the only son of my dads on this side of the family. My cousins have girls, and my half brother (dads first son by another marriage) does not have our last name anymore.
 
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Are you going to get him to install your unit bearings?
 
Look at all you miss by not having kids.
To my dad I was, and for the most part still am:
A tv remote, a lawn mowing service, a driveway shoveling service, a garden weeding service, a house cleaning service, a handy man, appliance repairman, dog sitter, house sitter, baby sitter for my sister, the list goes on and on.


yeah i bet it was the most expensive employee he ever had....


short"never fed and clothed my employees"xjdoug
 
As for kids, I want two, one of each
Be prepared to not get what you want. :cool:

We both wanted a boy, that's what we got. The pregnancy went well, the birth went well, he's cute, he's smart, he's good (for the most part). We've gotten too lucky to go for another anytime soon and risk disappointment. Harrison set the bar high.
 
I got 3. Nate can take them when he wants and give them back when he's done as long as he foots the bill.

He's got grandpa bennies without going through the hassle of having the first ones.
 
Be prepared to not get what you want. :cool:

We both wanted a boy, that's what we got. The pregnancy went well, the birth went well, he's cute, he's smart, he's good (for the most part). We've gotten too lucky to go for another anytime soon and risk disappointment. Harrison set the bar high.

this, took me 3 try's before I got a son, but the girls are the best kids you ask for.
 
Seriously, there is no reason to have kids if you don't want them. It wouldn't be fair to the kids to if you don't want them.

You're not strange for not wanting kids, you're just strange. (which is why I love you man!) :D
oh don't worry, none of you are going to change my mind, Jennie is the only person that gets a say, and right now we're both on the same page.

I did say that I was an acquired taste....

I got 3. Nate can take them when he wants and give them back when he's done as long as he foots the bill.

He's got grandpa bennies without going through the hassle of having the first ones.

I know right, it's an ideal setup. I have 5 nieces and nephews to pick from when we want to do something child related.

I will be an awesome uncle that lets them do dangerous, non mother approved activities.
 
I used to feel exactly the way you did. I hated kids when I was younger. I wanted nothing to do with them. I don't know how old you are but I know getting a little older changed my prospective a lot. Not saying that will happen to you. Hell, you might be older than I am.
 
I used to feel exactly the way you did. I hated kids when I was younger. I wanted nothing to do with them. I don't know how old you are but I know getting a little older changed my prospective a lot. Not saying that will happen to you. Hell, you might be older than I am.

I'm 30.

my feelings on the matter haven't changed since I was 18. Hell, I would have gotten snipped @ 18 if they had let me.

Jennie and I have been together for 15 years and married for 6. She knew what she was signing up for.

I just get tired of all the flabbergasted reactions I get, then most everyone wants to try and talk me into it, even if they've only known me for 15 minutes.

Is it really that strange to not want children?
and furthermore, if I have to be talked into it, maybe it's not a good idea.
I've heard all the arguments.

You'll change your mind when they're your own.
It's great when they're your own.

No, it's not, they're still children that have to be taken care of, it's just that when they're your own children you suck it up because you have to, then you tell everyone else how great it is so you don't look like an asshole that hates his own children.

I'm just skipping all of that, and embracing being an asshole that doesn't like children. It's way better for everyone involved.

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and I make sure we always go out to eat when trick or treat happens. This is mostly so I don't have to give out my candy to kids, because I like candy, and don't like children....

told you I was an asshole.
 
No, it's not, they're still children that have to be taken care of, it's just that when they're your own children you suck it up because you have to, then you tell everyone else how great it is so you don't look like an asshole that hates his own children.


there is much truth behind this. i dont do it cause like me my kids are awesome so its always the truth when i say it. but i have been at the park letting my boys burn some of all that built up run****incrazy energy. when other parents will try and talk to you. i have gotten the "kids are great arnt they" from a lady that looked like she got hit by a damn bus. and this other time when a dude in a suit with a flippen nanny watching his kids while he was on the phone, telling me "how great is it raising boys" there has been days when i have been pulling my hair out going crazy because they wont listen one minute. then they do something that is amazingly cool the next. raising kids has its ups and downs, there are more good times than bad for the most part. but i wont try to change anyone's mind on having them, that's just none of my business. i got em done young, so as they and my self get older we can still do all the crazy stuff together.

i cant wait till they are old enough to mow the lawn for me.
 
You're wrong about one thing...

I don't hate my kid. He truly is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I seriously didn't know I could love this much. It is tough sometimes, but as far as I'm concerned, its well worth it.

Other peoples kids...you know what I love about other people's kids? They're not mine.

I tell myself all the time that my kid won't act like that. Of course there are some things that you just can't stop when it comes to the behavior of your kids, but when it comes to raising them right, that's my plan. My biggest beef with people is how their parents raised them. For whatever reason, the youth has this righteous indignation and I don't play that shit.
 
I think you all make good points, I think kids are great when they are little, but total jackwads as teenagers. I am sure I was the same way. Kids are like dogs, puppies are cute, grown dogs just mean cleaning up bigger turds.
 
And if you don't want kids, Nate, that's totally cool with me. You're smart enough to know that you DO NOT want them. Good enough for me.
 
You're wrong about one thing...

I don't hate my kid. He truly is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I seriously didn't know I could love this much. It is tough sometimes, but as far as I'm concerned, its well worth it.

That was a generalization. I'm not saying that everyone hates their kids, just that it's not all the rosy happy fun time that most people try to convince me it is.

I got friends, they all have kids, I see the day to day things that they do. It's not for me.
The funny thing is most of them tell me that they are envious of our lifestyle.

And if you don't want kids, Nate, that's totally cool with me. You're smart enough to know that you DO NOT want them. Good enough for me.

if I gave a shit about other peoples opinions this would matter to me. as it stands, I give no fvcks about what other people think of me and my life. It's a liberating attitude, if it were adopted by more people in the world we'd probably have a lot less bullshit.
I appreciate it when other people can accept my view though. Most people just ramble on about me doing some great disservice to humanity by not procreating. It's cool, Josh went one over quota, so we'll not go extinct because I didn't have babies.
 
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