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Generous lol.

I haven't towed with it yet. Ill know what it can do after my Drummond island trip labor day. I hope its not 5 bucks by then.

it's already going to go up 10% in the next 3 months.
It will never get cheaper.

I expect $5 a gallon, especially if the current adminstration wins reelection.
 
it's already going to go up 10% in the next 3 months.
It will never get cheaper.

I expect $5 a gallon, especially if the current adminstration wins reelection.

That's true! I am praying that they dont!

If said person wins election ill stop paying taxes

Let me know how that pans out for you.
 
That's true! I am praying that they dont!

Even if Obama loses, you still ahve a bunch of key appointments he's made in the EPA and other federal departments that were all former lobbyists for the "green" movement.

Do you really think they'd let the price of evil fossil fuels come down? The whole goal is to make fossil fuels cost more. It's crony capitalism 101.

If you can't price your product competitively you make political contributions to those that can regulate your competitors and make their pricing go up until your pricing is now competitive.
 
If he get's voted in again I think we will see some sort of uprising.:dunno:

Too many pissed off people.

He will never get my vote but this election has me nervous.
 
If he get's voted in again I think we will see some sort of uprising.:dunno:

Too many pissed off people.

He will never get my vote but this election has me nervous.

There are too many that "depend" on the government to turn on it.

And the rest of the poeple who would get pissed are too big of XXXXXXs to "uprise"....
 
it's already going to go up 10% in the next 3 months.
It will never get cheaper.

I expect $5 a gallon, especially if the current adminstration wins reelection.
By the law of supply and demand, it will again get cheaper. Once we get to a point of near no dependence on fossil fuels, the price will drop as demand drops. Later as gasoline burning vehicles become obsolete in the same way that rotary phones or collectables, people will either be giving gas away or charging a fortune in comparison to today's prices.

But it will go down. We likely won't see it, though. The progression of electric and alternative fueled vehicles isn't fast enough.
 
The progression of electric and alternative fueled vehicles isn't fast enough.

This is true. Diesel technology is there but too many people think all diesels spew coal like a Mack truck. That's simply not true. I cringe seeing black coal rolling out of a truck. My injectors aren't supposed to do that, knock that shit off diesel brahs! :D
 
By the law of supply and demand, it will again get cheaper. Once we get to a point of near no dependence on fossil fuels, the price will drop as demand drops. Later as gasoline burning vehicles become obsolete in the same way that rotary phones or collectables, people will either be giving gas away or charging a fortune in comparison to today's prices.

But it will go down. We likely won't see it, though. The progression of electric and alternative fueled vehicles isn't fast enough.

Price will go down only as long as supply remains high. When demand drops off, producers have learned to limit production to keep the price in equilibrium.

Heck even the Arabs know this and realize that from their end. A certain price per barrel of oil prevents the production of alternative fuels and competition, and over that, causes it. So they regulate their flow to keep the price high, but not too high.

Diesel is not a viable option in the long run. Still runs on the same stuff, just less refined.

Electric is certainly an option, but batteries don't like cold and become inefficient. The new storage mediums like LiPo and the like, even more so. Then there is the range on an electric. Fine around town, but no long trips. The Hybrid seems to answer both those issues and have a backup fuel source when you run out of batteries. I like the idea of the "plug in" Hybrids where you top them off at night.

NG seems to be catching on in some parts. I heard there are big in Utah. The Fuel is less than gasoline, every house has it. You just need a compressor in the garage to pump it up and pressurize the tank with it. There is a company that makes one. Over all, if you had 2 vehicles, didn't mind the initial investment, it would save you money. There are also a number of dual fuel NG/Gas vehicles available used @ Government auction.

I saw an MG&E truck yesterday with a HYBRID sign on it. It was an IHC with a Utility box on the back instead of a Load box.
 
Diesel is not a viable option in the long run. Still runs on the same stuff, just less refined.


Bullshit, There is far more petroleum than they'd like us to believe. The eco movement is a good idea but the environmentalists are fubar'ing the whole thing. Diesels engines can meet emissions just as well as gasoline engines. I'd say we have a good 30 years before electric and hybrid vehicles are where they need to be. This planet will not run out of petroleum in our lifetimes.
 
Price will go down only as long as supply remains high. When demand drops off, producers have learned to limit production to keep the price in equilibrium.

Supply will remain high as demand lessens all why lowering production, or at least run parallel...to a certain limit. To maintain a specific level of income/profit the companies would have to increase production and pump product out like crazy with a markdown price to meet their quota or fire employees and lower overhead. Either would work well as long as they maintain their elitist attitude.

And the Chevy Volt is an excellent answer. It uses the same propulsion platform design as modern locomotives. A battery/motor creates the movement and a generator recharges as necessary. Great available torque and minimal fuel usage which is why train is still one of the most fuel efficient ways to move large amounts of cargo.
 
By the law of supply and demand, it will again get cheaper.

The oil companies don't subscribe to freshman economics. The make their own economical rules and generate revenue based on regulation.

The faster you say screw it and stop worrying about the price, the faster you'll be happy. You have to go out and make enough money that the price doesn't matter.

We sucked on the teet of cheap gas in this country for a long time, even as salaries and inflation rose. It's catching up now and equalizing, it's not overpriced.
 
After we cleaned the stock last night:

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The oil companies don't subscribe to freshman economics. The make their own economical rules and generate revenue based on regulation.
They may not worry about freshman economics, but they are subject to the rule. At some point, few people will want/need gas. If they want to continue making money on something that isn't in demand, they will have to lower prices. There's no way around it.

And I don't particularly worry about gas prices. If I need it, I buy it. I do however use every gas coupon I can get. There's no sense in paying full price if I don't have to.
After we cleaned the stock last night:

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Gun porn...I need a tissue.
 
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They may not worry about freshman economics, but they are subject to the rule. At some point, few people will want/need gas. If they want to continue making money on something that isn't in demand, they will have to lower prices. There's no way around it.

And I don't particularly worry about gas prices. If I need it, I buy it. I do however use every gas coupon I can get. There's no sense in paying full price if I don't have to.


Gun porn...I need a tissue.

The mistake that we continue to make as Americans is to think that any other country follows what we think are the rules.

Eventually, this world will return to whoever has the biggest guns takes what they want. We won't be alive to see it, but it will happen.
 
Man, I need to find a 91/30. I'm going to do a sniper replica with a better scope. The 7.62x54r round is awesome. It'll kick the hell out of your shoulder without a buttpad but is surprisingly accurate coming out of a 60-80ish year old gun. The M44 will remain untouched, I don't mind putting holes in a 91/30 though.
 
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