I missed the news.. True? Did he say this?

[DrMoab]

I bet dollar to donut if Hillary is his VP, he'll be dead with a year. . . .

Well, even though I don't like him, I would hate to see that happen.

Won't totally surprize me if someone tries anyway.

 

[bluejeepkid]

ummmm actually our forefathers may have based our nation on christianity, they acually fought so people can beleive what they want about religion. true this country main religious beleifs greatly consist of christianity, however our forefathers didnt want this great nation to be controlled by religion of any kind........hence the seperation of church and state.......our forefathers felt that to correctly build up a nation, it needed to be done in an unbiased way

 

[Bent]

I dont believe we have soles.

ray, look at the bottom of your foot.

 

[Ray H]

ray, look at the bottom of your foot.

Dang, Ive two of them.

 

[98XJSport]

Lets try this one on.

If you believe in God, you must believe in the Devil. Believe in Angels, and in Demons. You can't have one without the other.

So how can you have this ultimate good AND ultimate evil? Either someone created them to offset each other, or one created the other.

If both just "always existed" that means that there are more than just one omnipotent "god" and perhaps more than just the two at hand...

If God created the Devil, that means God is the source of all Evil in the world. Or if the Devil was accidently created, that means that god can fail...

 

[Darky]

God created us and gave us free will. Same goes for the angels. Satan was the angel of light, he became conceited, he wanted to have the glory and run Heaven. He led a third of the angels in rebellion against God. God banished them. That's the biblical perspective on where Satan came from. God's "failure", if you can call it that, was allowing us to have free will so we could make up our own minds as to worship Him or not, believe in Him or not. I looked at things and decided that I believe in Him. If you don't, that's fine.

 

[Darky]

Lets try this one on.

If you believe in God, you must believe in the Devil. Believe in Angels, and in Demons. You can't have one without the other.

So how can you have this ultimate good AND ultimate evil? Either someone created them to offset each other, or one created the other.

If both just "always existed" that means that there are more than just one omnipotent "god" and perhaps more than just the two at hand...

If God created the Devil, that means God is the source of all Evil in the world. Or if the Devil was accidently created, that means that god can fail...

 

[98XJSport]

God created us and gave us free will. Same goes for the angels. Satan was the angel of light, he became conceited, he wanted to have the glory and run Heaven. He led a third of the angels in rebellion against God. God banished them. That's the biblical perspective on where Satan came from. God's "failure", if you can call it that, was allowing us to have free will so we could make up our own minds as to worship Him or not, believe in Him or not. I looked at things and decided that I believe in Him. If you don't, that's fine.

But didn't he create angels to be perfect beings, with no free will?

And humanity being god's failure is another subject indeed

 

[ZomBrady]

You know what I'm posting next!

You know exactly what I'm posting next!

 

[XJEEPER]

Yeah. Ron White said it best - "You can't fix stupid."


However, isn't polygamy only common in Mormon societies and "tribal" populations? Not that I've any trouble with it, but we seem to have "evolved away" from it.

(I honestly don't have a problem with polygamy/andry/gyny - as long as everyone involved is happy and it works for them.)

The modern day practice of polygamy is too often associated with Mormon's by the press, but the truth is that any member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who is involved in the practice of polygamy is subject to excommunication. Doesn't get much more clear than that.

Lots of splinter groups that still practice their own version of this religion are, in my opinion, using the practice of polygamy for their own carnal and financial benefit and exploit their own offspring.

We are a nation of many different religions and have the right to worship or not, thanks to our founding fathers. I believe that there was a higher power inspiring those involved in the creation of this great nation and the drafting the Declaration of Independance and our Constitution/Bill of Rights.

 

[Darky]

You know what I'm posting next!

You know exactly what I'm posting next!

I don't know exactly, but I do have an idea...

 

[ZomBrady]

Christianity

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sense.​

 

[Darky]

Christianity

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... yeah, makes perfect sense.​

Yeah but mine had cool box around it...

 

[gradon]

What Obama said is true--we are a nation made up of people of many different religions. There is no horror in this. There is horror in how our "Christian/searching for religious freedom" founding fathers/ancestors built(stole land and people) this country. Forgive me for tuning out when someone pulls the founding father card. The further away we get from them and even the racist thinking of the 20th century, the better. I was a Christian until I started thinking/questioning everything for myself in college. My family is Christian and I respect their beliefs--I just realize that if they had been born in the middle east, they'd be devout muslims. I can't support a religion that condemns people to eternity in hell for not believing in a person that lived 2000 years ago because he is the gatekeeper of heaven, or that you have to do such and such and such to get to heaven. I do, however, believe that Jesus was a prophet and that he was able to do many things that we would think impossible. He was in touch with his spiritual side. There were prophets before him and there will be prophets after him. We are all Sons and Daughters of the Creator--there was never only One. We are all pieces/thoughts/extensions of the Divine. I don't believe the Bible as fact--"Our God said that your land is ours and that we can kill you, and enslave you, and take it; God will forgive your sins if you buy this animal and sacrifice it--B.S. There are good lessons to be learned and good morals/guidelines to live by. I do believe in a Creator, and regardless if it took 6 days or 6 billion years it's still an awesome creation, but She doesn't want me to bow down to Her, She wants to experience life through me. I have a soul and believe that it'll live past this physical existence. For those that don't believe in that, don't fear death either, cause you won't be conscious of your unconsciousness. I understand that I would be just like you if I was brought up in the same circumstances and went through the same ish you did. I am You are Me. So the greatest commandment, as Jesus said: Love. All else will fall into place if you truly do.

 

[ocean_jet]

God created us and gave us free will.

If God gave us free will, then God cannot know the future.... he is not omniscient. For if he truly were omniscient, he would know our futures. And if our futures are known, we cannot have free will. Yet, most Christians I know state that we have free will, and god is omniscient. But logic tells us those two cannot both exist.


I was always curious about that one.

 

[DrMoab]

It is possible that he gave us free will but at the same time knows exactly what we are going to do at any given moment.

Maybe say for example...if you believe in miricles... You are driving down the road and fall asleep, God may know you are going to hit that tree so ahead of time he puts a pot hole in the road that causes you to blow a tire and veer into the lake...where you drown anyway.

He just didn't want your family to have a closed casket funeral.

 

[Darky]

My son has free will to do what I say or not to do what I say. I can see him doing something wrong and tell him to come here and know his response will be to cry because he knows he's going to get spanked. Small example, yes, but my knowledge of his next action didn't change the fact that he still freely chose to do it. The difference is a matter of knowing that we will do something vs pulling the strings to make us do that something.

 

[ocean_jet]

In my opinion, major religions, at their core, are based on positive morality and goodness.

It's when politics (the desire for power and control) gets mingled with religion that problems occur, and religions are hijacked for use in controlling the masses. That's when the evil inherant in some people over powers the goodness at the core of most religions.

http://www.sheldondrake.com/TRobbins_religion.html

 

[GSequoia]

It is possible that he gave us free will but at the same time knows exactly what we are going to do at any given moment.

Like Santa Claus!

 

[ocean_jet]

It is possible that he gave us free will but at the same time knows exactly what we are going to do at any given moment.

Maybe say for example...if you believe in miricles... You are driving down the road and fall asleep, God may know you are going to hit that tree so ahead of time he puts a pot hole in the road that causes you to blow a tire and veer into the lake...where you drown anyway.

He just didn't want your family to have a closed casket funeral.

Haha....

Interesting take!