Forget 44s and 8.8s...lets talk Toyotas

[Vonski]

I know I'm waaaaay late chiming in on this thread, but I have a '97 XJ with a Toyota 2wd V6 rear axle (8" housing) w/ e-locker and 4:10's. I have done my best to share this experience/knowledge on local boards and such (mostly because of my own dislike for the more common swaps, but nearly all those XJ owners have been reluctant to accept this as a possible swap. After owning a Toyota comp./trail rig with an e-locker and having an employee that has been running high and low pinion e-lockers in 8" housings for the last 8 years, it was the only option I considered to replace my D35.

Anyway, if anyone needs any info or specs, just ask...

 

[BrettM]

awesome! what year and model? did it come with the e-locker third or did you swap that from a different vehicle? just give us the full writeup

 

[HoodRichXJ]

I second that write-up! steve

 

[MaineZJ]

Anyone know the strengths od Yota axles? Trying to add them to the D35/44/60 8.25/8.8 list

 

[Fergie]

Anyone know the strengths od Yota axles? Trying to add them to the D35/44/60 8.25/8.8 list

Try the Toyota Truck section FAQ on Pirate.

Fergie

 

[gmanxj]

I just talked to Vaughn @ RockLogic in SLC about the toy swap he did in his 97 XJ. I was able to get a lot of useful info about years and model types for the swap. He did an early axle swap and then bought a later style 8" e-locker and then modified the housing to accept the new 3rd member. He mentioned that a disc brake conversion would be simple after this swap if I was not content with the factory drums

Anyone interested in this same swap should call him.

 

[MaineZJ]

I've read the whole thread about Toy axles on POR.

gmanxj : Why not post the info you got here?

 

[MaineZJ]

Brett - you didn't use a Taco rear did you? otherwise- did you deal at all with the width differnce between the 8" and the 44?

 

[BrettM]

I used the "IFS rear", 8" diff from an 88 pickup. It's 58.5" wide and my front D44 is about 3 inches wider. I like having the rear narrower, it helps the rear tires to better get around rocks.

 

[haynesn12]

i hate to bring up an older thread but i got some questions. i picked up a toy housing today for free. it came out of a 4cyl truck thats all i know. how hard would it be to make this work under my mj? can i put a third member and shafts out of one that has the right bp or should i just junk it?

 

[Fergie]

What year is the axle? And was it a 4x4 or 4x2 truck?

 

[haynesn12]

i dont know the year because it had just been left at the shop and no one could tell me. i know it came from a 4X4

 

[Fergie]

I'd pull the axles and see if they are 30 spliners or not. If not, then toss it.

You cant swap the shaft for the correct BP. You can redrill or have custom ones done. The axle will work under your Mj. Relocate the perches, and adapt the brake lines from metric to SAE.

 

[haynesn12]

if you dont mind me asking. what are the differances between the shafts? cause i just thought if i used a 3rd member and shafts from the correct axle it would work. i guess i was wrong

 

[Fergie]

if you dont mind me asking. what are the differances between the shafts? cause i just thought if i used a 3rd member and shafts from the correct axle it would work. i guess i was wrong

Well, I was thinking Taco shafts, which are differnt from 4cyl to 6cyl, but only in 2wd versions, so I could be incorrect.

BrettM will know more on the early Toy axles than I do. Shoot him a PM, or wait until he responds.

Fergie

 

[haynesn12]

alright will do. and thank you for the quick responses

 

[Lincoln]

Just pull a shaft and check the splines. Some were 27 spline. Also measure the spring perch width on the MJ and then see where they end up on the toy. An early axle may be to narrow between the backing plate.

 

[haynesn12]

they have 30 splines

 

[BrettM]

if it's 85 and earlier it is only 55" wide and won't fit. If it's 86-95ish it will be 58.5" wide and barely fit. What I mean by barely is that you will have to run about 3 inch backspacing or less with a 15x8 and 12.50 tire and it will still rub the frame a just a little. If it's 95ish and later it will be 60" wide and a good cantidate. I don't know jack about the 8" shafts with 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern. If you get the 6 lug shafts redrilled for 5 on 4.5 you will also need to get the center flange turned down to fit the hole in a 5 on 4.5 wheel.

 

[Lincoln]

If you get the 6 lug shafts redrilled for 5 on 4.5 you will also need to get the center flange turned down to fit the hole in a 5 on 4.5 wheel.

The studs end up falling off the edge of the center hole in the drum. The only way to redrill to 5x4.5 is to convert to disks.